{"id":9720,"date":"2025-10-14T08:00:00","date_gmt":"2025-10-14T08:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/?p=9720"},"modified":"2025-05-24T12:56:24","modified_gmt":"2025-05-24T12:56:24","slug":"a-first-look-at-julian-jayness-book-1976-the-origin-of-consciousness-in-the-breakdown-of-the-bicameral-mind-part-16-of-21","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/?p=9720","title":{"rendered":"A First Look at Julian Jaynes&#8217;s Book (1976) &#8220;The Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind&#8221; (Part 16 of 21)"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>0448 But, isn&#8217;t&nbsp;<em>the problem of Julian Jaynes&#8217;s hypothesis<\/em>&nbsp;the second item in the following list?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/Slide44-1.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"600\" height=\"400\" src=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/Slide44-1.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-9721\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/Slide44-1.png 600w, https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/Slide44-1-300x200.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>0449 So far, this examination is undecided.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Yes, it is a terminological problem, because&nbsp;<em>the double-brain<\/em>&nbsp;is also one of the proposals.&nbsp;&nbsp;I know from this examination that the double-brain evolves as&nbsp;<em>a two-chambered cognitive property of the human brain&#8230; er&#8230; mind<\/em>.&nbsp;&nbsp;<em>The bicameral mind<\/em>&nbsp;pumps&nbsp;<em>interventional sign relations<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>No, the term, &#8220;auditory hallucination&#8221;, is&nbsp;<em>a projection of modern sensibilities onto subject matter that&#8230; well&#8230; may be too disturbing to discuss<\/em>.&nbsp;&nbsp;What if&nbsp;<em>the casual dismissal of Jaynes&#8217;s four-strand thesis<\/em>&nbsp;could be played back, in the mind of a modern objector, in the voice of a well-regarded psychology professor.&nbsp;&nbsp;You know&nbsp;<em>the one that I am referring to<\/em>.&nbsp;&nbsp;Just look at all the awards on display in the office.&nbsp;&nbsp;What if&#8230;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>0450 I pause, while the reader shudders.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&#8230;<em>the hallucinated voice of the psychology professor<\/em>&nbsp;tells the modern objector&nbsp;<em>what to say about the topic of &#8220;auditory hallucinations&#8221;?<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Of course, it is nonsense.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>0451 Now, let me walk through&nbsp;<em>my bimodal answer<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>0452 My first step is to consider&nbsp;<em>the scholastic interscope for how people think<\/em>.&nbsp;&nbsp;The interventional sign-relation is embedded within this interscope.&nbsp;&nbsp;This interscope, by the way, belongs to&nbsp;<em>the human niche<\/em>.&nbsp;&nbsp;This interscope is&nbsp;<em>an actuality that is independent of the adapting species<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/Slide45-1.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"600\" height=\"400\" src=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/Slide45-1.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-9722\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/Slide45-1.png 600w, https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/Slide45-1-300x200.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>0453 On the perspective level,&nbsp;<em>a normal context asking, &#8220;Does this make sense?&#8221;<sub>3c<\/sub>,<\/em>&nbsp;brings&nbsp;<em>the actuality of the unfolding of judgment<sub>2c<\/sub><\/em>&nbsp;into relation with&nbsp;<em>the possibility of &#8216;contextualizing the situation &#8216;<sub>1c<\/sub><\/em>.&nbsp;&nbsp;&#8220;The situation&#8221; includes both phantasm<sub>2b<\/sub>&nbsp;(<em>species expressa<sub>2b<\/sub><\/em>) and impression<sub>2a<\/sub>&nbsp;(<em>species impressa<sub>2a<\/sub><\/em>).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>With sensible construction, the perspective-level comes into play only when something goes wrong.&nbsp;&nbsp;<em>Julian Jaynes&#8217;s description of the occasion of the auditory hallucinations<sub>2c(2a)<\/sub>&nbsp;of the bicameral mind<\/em>&nbsp;concurs.&nbsp;&nbsp;In the&nbsp;<em>Iliad,<\/em>&nbsp;visual and auditory hallucinations are (1) taken for granted as real and (2) received under stressful situations.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>0454 My designation for Jaynes&#8217;s &#8220;auditory hallucination&#8221;?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&nbsp;I designate&nbsp;<em>the actualities within the interventional sign-relation<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Say what?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Another way to label an auditory hallucination<sub>2c(2a)<\/sub>&nbsp;is SV<sub>i<\/sub>(SO<sub>i<\/sub>).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>0455 The SV<sub>i<\/sub>&nbsp;of commitment<sub>2c<\/sub>&nbsp;can be depicted as&nbsp;<em>a category-based nested form<\/em>.&nbsp;&nbsp;A ratio (<em>rationes,<\/em>&nbsp;relation, thirdness) brings the intelligibility of perception (<em>species expressa intelligibilis,<\/em>&nbsp;what ought to be, firstness) into relation with the universality of sensation (<em>species impressa intelligibilis,<\/em>&nbsp;what is, secondness).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>0456 Since commitment<sub>2c<\/sub>&nbsp;(SV<sub>i<\/sub>) is a category-based nested form and the content-level of the scholastic interscope (SI<sub>i<\/sub>and SO<sub>i<\/sub>) is a category-based nested form, one initially anticipates resonances between the two nested forms.&nbsp;&nbsp;These resonances are built into&nbsp;<em>the interventional sign-relation<\/em>&nbsp;as a human adaptation.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/Slide46-1.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"600\" height=\"400\" src=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/Slide46-1.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-9723\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/Slide46-1.png 600w, https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/Slide46-1-300x200.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>0457 The first resonance is between&nbsp;<em>ratio<sub>3(2c)<\/sub><\/em>&nbsp;(or balance<sub>3(2c)<\/sub>) and&nbsp;<em>what is happening<sub>3a<\/sub><\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The implication is that (as far as scholastics are concerned)&nbsp;<em>everything that happens<\/em>&nbsp;has a reason.&nbsp;&nbsp;A Christian theologian contends that the universe embodies&nbsp;<em>the rationality of God<\/em>.&nbsp;&nbsp;Modern science presumes that the universe is rational, but avers in regards to the theologian&#8217;s contention.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>0458 The second resonance is between&nbsp;<em>the universality of sensation<sub>2(2c)<\/sub><\/em>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<em>sensation(impression(decoding))<sub>2a<\/sub><\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In Latin, the second resonance is between&nbsp;<em>species impressa intelligibilis<sub>2(2c)<\/sub><\/em>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<em>species impressa<sub>2a<\/sub><\/em>.&nbsp;&nbsp;<em>The plainness of the Latin<\/em>&nbsp;assists, because each of these terms must be regarded holistically.&nbsp;&nbsp;In English, scientific terminology elaborates further distinctions and wholeness is veiled.&nbsp;&nbsp;For example, for the perspective-level actuality<sub>2c<\/sub>, the Latin term,&nbsp;<em>intelligibilis,<\/em>&nbsp;translates as &#8220;universality&#8221;.&nbsp;&nbsp;Also,&nbsp;<em>species impressa<\/em><sub>2a<\/sub>&nbsp;is captured by three distinct terms: sensation, impression and decoding.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>0459 What else about the second resonance?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>The Christian theologian<\/em>&nbsp;contends that our senses are true.&nbsp;&nbsp;Our senses are universal.&nbsp;&nbsp;A universal applies to well&#8230; just about everything.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>To me, this contention comports with sensible construction.&nbsp;&nbsp;Social construction produces impressions that do not necessary entail things that trigger external and internal senses.&nbsp;&nbsp;Rather, social construction wrestles with&nbsp;<em>grammatically correct, counter-intuitive statements<\/em>&nbsp;that are decoded into&nbsp;<em>literal referents that do not make sense, and demand the construction of a cognitive space that accommodates the statements<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>The scientist<\/em>&nbsp;practices the second resonance with&nbsp;<em>every observation and measurement<\/em>.&nbsp;&nbsp;If&nbsp;<em>the universality of sensation<\/em>is not valid, then the observations and the measurements of one researcher should not be reproduced by another researcher.&nbsp;&nbsp;Yet,&nbsp;<em>the reproduction of experimental data by independent researchers<\/em>&nbsp;is a hallmark of science.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>0460 The third resonance is between&nbsp;<em>the potential intelligibility of perception<sub>1(2c)<\/sub><\/em>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<em>the possibility of &#8216;something happening&#8217;<sub>1a<\/sub><\/em>.&nbsp;&nbsp;In Latin, the third resonance is between&nbsp;<em>species expressa intelligibilis<sub>2(2c)<\/sub><\/em>&nbsp;and oops, there is no Latin term for&nbsp;<em>the potential of &#8216;something happening&#8217;<sub>1a<\/sub><\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>How about&nbsp;<em>itshay appenshay?<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>But, what about intelligibility?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Firstness exhibits the logic of inclusion.&nbsp;&nbsp;Firstness allows contradictions.&nbsp;&nbsp;So, even if &#8216;something happening&#8217; 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