{"id":9058,"date":"2025-05-21T08:00:00","date_gmt":"2025-05-21T08:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/?p=9058"},"modified":"2024-12-16T21:07:36","modified_gmt":"2024-12-16T21:07:36","slug":"category-based-diagrams-assist-in-studying-how-message-and-presence-complement-meaning","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/?p=9058","title":{"rendered":"Looking at Alexei Sharov&#8217;s Chapter (2024) &#8220;Semiotics of Potential Meanings&#8221; (Part 1 of 8)"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>0901 The text before me is chapter seven of&nbsp;<em>Pathways<\/em>&nbsp;(see point 0831 for book details, pages 137-166).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>Examinations of the chapters on non-human agency<\/em>&nbsp;end up&nbsp;<em>with a suggestion that biosemiotics may include more than semiotic agency<\/em>.&nbsp;&nbsp;<em>Semiotic agency<\/em>&nbsp;contains&nbsp;<em>the specifying and exemplar sign-relations<\/em>.&nbsp;&nbsp;<em>The scholastic interscope for how humans think<\/em>&nbsp;contains&nbsp;<em>one other sign-relation<\/em>.&nbsp;&nbsp;<em>The interventional sign-relation<\/em>&nbsp;is odd, compared to the other two sign-relations.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>So is the author&#8217;s term, &#8220;potential meanings&#8221;.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>0902 Of course, the terms, &#8220;interventional sign-relation&#8221; and &#8220;potential meanings&#8221; are mere labels.&nbsp;&nbsp;They are tags.&nbsp;&nbsp;They are spoken words.&nbsp;&nbsp;They are unlike the manual-brachial word-gestures of fully linguistic hand or hand-speech talk.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>For hand talk, in terms of&nbsp;<em>parole,&nbsp;<\/em>gesture-words picture and point to their referents.&nbsp;&nbsp;They are icons and indexes.&nbsp;&nbsp;So,&nbsp;<em>word-gestures<\/em>&nbsp;(SV<sub>s<\/sub>) abstract&nbsp;<em>the natural sign-qualities of these types of sign<\/em>s.&nbsp;&nbsp;<em>Icons and indexes<\/em>&nbsp;picture and point to&nbsp;<em>&#8216;something that could be present&#8217;<\/em>&nbsp;(SO<sub>s<\/sub>).&nbsp;&nbsp;Presence (SV<sub>e<\/sub>) can have many meanings, depending on&nbsp;<em>what is going on<\/em>.&nbsp;&nbsp;Consequently, SO<sub>e<\/sub>&nbsp;is&nbsp;<em>an intuitive abstraction based on what the word-gesture implicitly pictures and points to<\/em><em>(langue).<\/em>&nbsp;&nbsp;I call the process, &#8220;implicit abstraction&#8221;.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>For example, the hand-talk word, [image RAVEN], can denote the color black, as well as particular attitudes.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The hand-talk word, [POINT to corner of eye], can denote the color white, as well as particular attitudes and warnings.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>0903 Can the term, &#8220;potential meaning&#8221; be stated using hand-talk?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>No.&nbsp;&nbsp;What is there to picture or point to?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The term is an explicit abstraction.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>0904 In speech-alone talk,&nbsp;<em>parole<\/em>&nbsp;is arbitrarily related to&nbsp;<em>langue<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Since&nbsp;<em>parole<\/em>&nbsp;comes first, as SV<sub>s<\/sub>,&nbsp;<em>the specified referent<\/em>&nbsp;(SO<sub>s<\/sub>) comes into being after a word is spoken.&nbsp;&nbsp;After all, SV<sub>s<\/sub>associates to message and message precedes presence (SO<sub>s<\/sub>).&nbsp;&nbsp;The specified referent (SO<sub>s<\/sub>) associates to information<sub>2b<\/sub>.&nbsp;&nbsp;But, since speech-talk cannot picture or point to anything, that information<sub>2b<\/sub>&nbsp;(SO<sub>s<\/sub>) may end up being explicitly defined.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>0905 I say &#8220;may&#8221;, because sometimes information<sub>2b<\/sub>&nbsp;is obvious.&nbsp;&nbsp;Consider the word, &#8220;chair&#8221;.&nbsp;&nbsp;Everyone immediately intuits a &#8220;chair&#8221;, even though chairs do not occur in nature.&nbsp;&nbsp;But, what about the American bureaucratic designation, &#8220;chair-person&#8221;?&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Sit down for a minute and think about it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>How can a person be a chair?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>0906 Sharov&#8217;s technical term, &#8220;potential meaning&#8221; 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