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0773 Section 17.2 addresses the question, “Is it possible to couple concepts of modeling<\/em> with semiotics?”<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n

The answer is yes and now I am going to repeat myself.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Indeed, Sebeok and Danesi demonstrated one coupling.  The model<\/em> participates as a sign-vehicle<\/em> in the appearance of a sign-relation<\/em>.  The model is a form<\/em> (SVapp<\/sub>) that stands for the matter at hand<\/em> (SOapp<\/sub>) in regards to a referential domain<\/em>(SIapp<\/sub>).<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The sign-relation is in appearance<\/em> because there does not seem to be any categorical changes<\/em>.  All the elements<\/em> appear on the same categorical level<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

0774 In what follows, I assign all the elements to the situation-level of an interscope<\/em>.  The elements retain the appearance of a sign-relation<\/em>.  At the same time, the elements<\/em> correspond to features in a category-based nested form<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Domain3<\/sub> becomes the normal context.  The qualifiers, “representational” and “referential”, enter the realm of potential1<\/sub>.  Then, the two real elements in Peirce’s secondness, matter at hand2<\/sub><\/em> and form\/model2<\/sub>,<\/em> are arranged in actuality2,<\/sub> along the lines of Aristotle’s hylomorphe, matter [substance] form2<\/sub><\/em>.  The actuality2<\/sub> becomes the matter at hand [makes present] the form or model<\/em>2<\/sub>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

0775 Section 17.3 addresses the question, “Can the inquirer characterize the coupling?”<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The answer is yes.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Or, I should say, “This examiner’s answer is yes, as shown in the following comparison.”<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\"\"<\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

Both category-based nested forms<\/em> occur in the situation level<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

0776 One aspect of the apparent sign-relation<\/em> associates to the specifying sign<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

0777 The sign interpretant for Sebeok and Danesi’s approach<\/em> (SIapp<\/sub>) says, “The situation-level normal context of domain3b<\/sub> operates on the possibilities inherent in reference and representation1b<\/sub>.”<\/p>\n\n\n\n

This compares to the specifying sign-interpretant in semiotic agency<\/em>.  The normal context of self-governance3b<\/sub> operates on potential courses of action1b<\/sub>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

0778 What about the apparent sign-vehicle and sign-object for Sebeok and Danesi’s approach (SOapp<\/sub> [makes present] SVapp<\/sub>).<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The author suggests that the coupling is like a gestalt<\/em>.  A gestalt<\/em> is a spontaneous recognition<\/em>.  Often, something in background<\/em> becomes foreground<\/em> in a gestalt shift<\/em>.  For the example of log down the trail <\/em>(SVs<\/sub>) [specifying] a bear<\/em>(SOs<\/sub>), a gestalt moment<\/em> transits from something that may be blocking the path further along<\/em> (SOs<\/sub>) to what if that something is a bear<\/em> (SVe<\/sub>).<\/p>\n\n\n\n

0779 SOapp<\/sub> [makes present] SVapp<\/sub><\/em> seems to be a two-way street.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The author’s suggestion changes the character of information2b<\/sub> from {SOs<\/sub> [&] SVe<\/sub>} to {SOs<\/sub> [presence] SVe<\/sub>].  [Presence] is the contiguity between the specifying sign-object (SOs<\/sub>) and the exemplar sign-vehicle (SVe<\/sub>).  The contiguity entails a gestalt moment.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\"\"<\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

0780 Have I learned something new about the S&T noumenal overlay?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

In section 17.3, the author offers a diagram that pictures the model of semiosis that he has in mind<\/em>.  Here is a reproduction.  The three dimensions<\/em> correspond to three corners of a triangle<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\"\"<\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

0781 While this diagram may seem far less sophisticated than the pictures of semiotic agency developed in this examination, there will be a lesson to learn.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

How so?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Sharov and Tonnessen’s noumenal overlay<\/em> acts like an amoeba, it engulfs whatever it can devour<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

0782 So, let me look at how the S&T overlay<\/em> embraces this depiction of a model and semiosis<\/em> with its pseudopods.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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