{"id":8829,"date":"2025-03-28T08:00:00","date_gmt":"2025-03-28T08:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/?p=8829"},"modified":"2024-12-14T20:28:41","modified_gmt":"2024-12-14T20:28:41","slug":"looking-at-robert-prinzs-chapter-2024-meaning-relies-on-codes-but-depends-on-agents-part-3-of-5","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/?p=8829","title":{"rendered":"Looking at Robert Prinz&#8217;s Chapter (2024) &#8220;Meaning Relies on Codes But Depends on Agents&#8221; (Part 3 of 5)"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>0416 Here is another way of looking at it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The agent<sub>3<\/sub>&nbsp;of semiotic agency<sub>2<\/sub>&nbsp;is no longer the agent<sub>3<\/sub>&nbsp;that was present originally.&nbsp;&nbsp;The new agent<sub>3<\/sub>&nbsp;effectively games an established semiotic agency<sub>2<\/sub>&nbsp;by changing its underlying signficance<sub>1<\/sub>.&nbsp;&nbsp;But, it is not an intentional change.&nbsp;&nbsp;It is more like a subtle change in landscape that eventually alters the course of a river.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>0417 So,&nbsp;<em>coded semiotic agency<sub>2<\/sub><\/em>&nbsp;finds itself within&nbsp;<em>the domain of a new agent<sub>3<\/sub>&nbsp;and potential<sub>1<\/sub><\/em>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<em>the new domain<\/em>&nbsp;is going to &#8220;game&#8221;&nbsp;<em>the semiotic agency<sub>2<\/sub><\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/Slide133.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"600\" height=\"400\" src=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/Slide133.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-8830\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/Slide133.png 600w, https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/Slide133-300x200.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>0418 Options?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Well, the original code can go out of business, to be replaced by semiotic agency<sub>2<\/sub>&nbsp;from the new management<sub>3,1<\/sub>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The original code can continue to operate irrespective of the semiotic agency<sub>2<\/sub>&nbsp;that the new management<sub>3,1<\/sub>&nbsp;is actualizing.&nbsp;&nbsp;In this case, the new management<sub>3,1<\/sub>&nbsp;may use the original code as&nbsp;<em>a functional component within a more comprehensive semiotic agency<sub>2<\/sub><\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The original code that manifests as&nbsp;<em>a functional component within a more comprehensive semiotic agency<sub>2<\/sub><\/em>&nbsp;may start to change, in response to its new normal context<sub>3<\/sub>&nbsp;and potential<sub>1<\/sub>, through empedoclements.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>0419 In short, modularity and hierarchy among semiotic agencies<sub>2<\/sub>&nbsp;may also be regarded as modularity and hierarchy among agents<sub>3<\/sub>&nbsp;and their significance<sub>1<\/sub>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Thus, the title of Prinz&#8217;s chapter is accounted for.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>0420 Section 11.4 lists topics in neural codes.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Section 11.5 raises the question as to whether meaning is&nbsp;<em>in<\/em>&nbsp;or&nbsp;<em>from<\/em>&nbsp;codes.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Section 11.6 wonders how interpretation delivers meaning.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>These sections all flow from Barbieri&#8217;s insights into the all-encompassing nature of codes.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>And, codes are all-encompassing because the Sharov and Tonnessen&#8217;s noumenal overlay is all-encompassing.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>0421 For neural codes, consider a human agent who sees an object on a sunny day.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/Slide134.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"600\" height=\"400\" 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