{"id":8683,"date":"2025-01-09T08:00:00","date_gmt":"2025-01-09T08:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/?p=8683"},"modified":"2024-12-14T15:34:56","modified_gmt":"2024-12-14T15:34:56","slug":"looking-at-alexei-sharov-and-morten-tonnessens-book-2021-semiotic-agency-part-20-of-24","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/?p=8683","title":{"rendered":"Looking at Alexei Sharov and Morten Tonnessen&#8217;s Book (2021) &#8220;Semiotic Agency&#8221; (Part 20 of 24)"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>0174 Do you know where I am going with this?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Do I know where I am going with this?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Ah, the question!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Does&nbsp;<em>Sharov and Tonnessen&#8217;s noumenal overlay<\/em>&nbsp;satisfy&nbsp;<em>the three principles listed in point 0152?<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I examine the first item.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>First (P), limit agents to things that are accessible to observation and measurements.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In other words, for biosemiotics, limit phenomena to the noumenal items portrayed in green.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/Slide055.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"600\" height=\"400\" src=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/Slide055.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-8684\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/Slide055.png 600w, https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/Slide055-300x200.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>0175 What about the second admonition (Q) in point 0152?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Do not explain agency by any hypothesized substances or forces other than those already known to modern natural science, social sciences and humanities.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>This suggestion is pictured in blue in the above figure.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>0176 Of course, the term, &#8220;substances&#8221;, needs clarification.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>According to Razie Mah, the term, &#8220;substance&#8221;, may be used to label&nbsp;<em>the contiguity between the real elements of matter and form<\/em>.&nbsp;&nbsp;By extension,&nbsp;<em>Aristotle&#8217;s hylomorphe<\/em>&nbsp;is an exemplar for&nbsp;<em>Peirce&#8217;s category of secondness<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/Slide056.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"600\" height=\"400\" src=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/Slide056.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-8685\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/Slide056.png 600w, https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/Slide056-300x200.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>The problem is that the word, &#8220;substance&#8221;, can be applied to all sorts of crazy notions.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>So, biosemioticians take note.&nbsp;&nbsp;<em>Sharov and Tonnessen&#8217;s noumenal overlay<\/em>&nbsp;suggests that&nbsp;<em>substances<\/em>&nbsp;need to be explained by biosemiotic models.&nbsp;&nbsp;Substances are not explanations.&nbsp;&nbsp;They are&nbsp;<em>contiguities that need to be explained<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/Slide057.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"600\" height=\"400\" src=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/Slide057.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-8686\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/Slide057.png 600w, https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/Slide057-300x200.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>0177 The third please-do in point 0152 (R) says, &#8220;Do not link agency with unproven, speculative physical effects such as subatomic quantum factors, extra dimensions in space, and so on.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Both authors work as editors in the fledgling field of biosemiotics.&nbsp;&nbsp;Imagine the manuscripts that they have received.&nbsp;&nbsp;How does one explain triadic sign-relations in terms of dyadic cause and effect?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Here, I wonder.&nbsp;&nbsp;Are these diagrams equivalent to subatomic quantum factors, extra dimensions in space, and so on?&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Obviously not, physical factors do not cause purely relational beings.&nbsp;&nbsp;Physical factors may be drawn into a triadic relation.&nbsp;&nbsp;And, that makes it difficult to tell which is more real.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Physics or metaphysics?What is the nature of reality?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>0174 Do you know where I am going with this? 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