{"id":8621,"date":"2025-01-24T08:00:00","date_gmt":"2025-01-24T08:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/?p=8621"},"modified":"2024-12-14T14:59:14","modified_gmt":"2024-12-14T14:59:14","slug":"looking-at-alexei-sharov-and-morten-tonnessens-book-2021-semiotic-agency-part-7-of-24","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/?p=8621","title":{"rendered":"Looking at Alexei Sharov and Morten Tonnessen&#8217;s Book (2021) &#8220;Semiotic Agency&#8221; (Part 7 of 24)"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>0056 In the laboratory sciences,&nbsp;<em>an experimental recipe<\/em>&nbsp;allows the student to observe and measure&nbsp;<em>phenomena<\/em>&nbsp;that validate&nbsp;<em>the model (overlaying the noumenon)<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In biosemiotics,&nbsp;<em>S&amp;T&#8217;s noumenal overlay<\/em>&nbsp;serves as a template for students and researchers.&nbsp;&nbsp;Phenomena, corresponding to certain (real) elements, may be observed and measured in order to elucidate mechanistic models for&nbsp;<em>the elements that constitute the contiguities<\/em>.&nbsp;&nbsp;In short,&nbsp;<em>the mechanisms for the science beyond natural science<\/em>&nbsp;consider&nbsp;<em>phenomena that incorporate Aristotle&#8217;s formal and final causalities<\/em>&nbsp;to be&nbsp;<em>observable and measurable facets of S&amp;T&#8217;s noumenal overlay.<\/em>&nbsp;Consequently, biosemiotics is not philosophically impoverished.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>0057 Does S&amp;T&#8217;s noumenal overlay correspond to&nbsp;<em>the propositions of a &#8220;New Mechanistic Philosophy&#8221;<\/em>&nbsp;that have been floating around since around 2000 AD?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Yes,&nbsp;<em>S&amp;T&#8217;s noumenal overlay<\/em>&nbsp;applies to structures that perform a function by virtue of their participation as a component in a larger operation.&nbsp;&nbsp;In the example,&nbsp;<em>being awake<\/em>&nbsp;functions as a platform for the operation of&nbsp;<em>conscious activities<\/em>.&nbsp;&nbsp;<em>Function<\/em>&nbsp;associates to&nbsp;<em>salience<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>No,&nbsp;<em>S&amp;T&#8217;s noumenal overlay<\/em>&nbsp;does not reduce&nbsp;<em>higher-level phenomena<\/em>&nbsp;to&nbsp;<em>the dynamics of lower-level components,<\/em>except in so far as&nbsp;<em>failure of lower-level components<\/em>&nbsp;may trigger&nbsp;<em>failure of higher-level components,<\/em>&nbsp;leading to&nbsp;<em>systemic failure<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>0058 After that curveball, what about&nbsp;<em>the idea of information<\/em>?.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>May I substitute the term, &#8220;information&#8221; for &#8220;object (SO<sub>s<\/sub>)&#8221;?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>If I do so, then I get two hylomorphes that look fairly independent, even though they are actually embedded, one within the other.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/Slide019.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"600\" height=\"400\" src=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/Slide019.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-8622\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/Slide019.png 600w, https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/Slide019-300x200.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>0059 What are the advantages of&nbsp;<em>Sharov and Tonnessen&#8217;s noumenal overlay?<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Well, first, for the natural sciences, noumena are recognizable things.&nbsp;&nbsp;Such is&nbsp;<em>the advantage of the label, &#8220;noumenon&#8221;<\/em>.&nbsp;&nbsp;<em>The thing itself<\/em>&nbsp;cannot be objectified by&nbsp;<em>its observable and measurable facets<\/em>&nbsp;because the noumenon should be obvious.&nbsp;&nbsp;If it is not so obvious, then it must be pointed out.&nbsp;&nbsp;To me, agency seems intuitively obvious.&nbsp;&nbsp;At the same time, one cannot picture or point to agency.&nbsp;&nbsp;The term is an explicit abstraction, leading to Kull&#8217;s criteria and similar proposals.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Second, for biosemiotics, semiotic agency manifests a sign-relation.&nbsp;&nbsp;Sign-relations are intuitively obvious, but one cannot paint or tag a sign-relation.&nbsp;&nbsp;In order to make the sign-relation an actual thing, the authors render a dyad, derived from the two-level specifying sign-relation. The dyad is a diagram that pictures the specifying-sign relation as an actuality.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>For Aristotle,&nbsp;<em>the dyad of matter and form&nbsp;<\/em>constitutes&nbsp;<em>the first step of philosophical abstraction<\/em>.&nbsp;&nbsp;See&nbsp;<em>Comments on Jacques Maritain&#8217;s Book (1935) Natural Philosophy<\/em>.&nbsp;&nbsp;For Peirce,&nbsp;<em>the category of secondness, the realm of actuality,<\/em>consists in&nbsp;<em>two contiguous real elements<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/Slide020.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"600\" height=\"400\" src=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/Slide020.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-8623\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/Slide020.png 600w, https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/Slide020-300x200.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>0060 Third,&nbsp;<em>the S&amp;T noumenal overlay<\/em>&nbsp;more or less breaks down into&nbsp;<em>elements that associate to phenomena<\/em>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<em>elements that need to be accounted for by models<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/Slide021.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"600\" height=\"400\" src=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/Slide021.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-8624\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/Slide021.png 600w, https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/Slide021-300x200.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>0061 How about validation?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Does this dyad integrate semiosis with mechanism?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In section 1.4, the authors offer&nbsp;<em>principles for integration<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The question is whether this dyad satisfies those principles.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>0062&nbsp;<em>The first principle?<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>According to anthropologist and semiotician, Gregory Bateson (1904-1980), a sign is&nbsp;<em>a difference that expresses a difference<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Does S&amp;T&#8217;s noumenal overlay match this statement?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>0063 Note how Bateson mentions two differences.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>The first difference<\/em>&nbsp;is&nbsp;<em>the difference between the SV<sub>s<\/sub>&nbsp;and all other potential significations<\/em>.&nbsp;&nbsp;Somehow, to an agent, the SV<sub>s<\/sub>&nbsp;stands out.&nbsp;&nbsp;Well, it stands out because the SV<sub>s<\/sub>&nbsp;&#8220;causes&#8221; (through habit SI<sub>s<\/sub>) a SO<sub>s<\/sub>. Or is it the other way around?&nbsp;&nbsp;Does a SO<sub>s<\/sub>&nbsp;make a SV<sub>s<\/sub>&nbsp;more likely to be noticed?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The SV<sub>s<\/sub>&nbsp;associates to form (for Aristotle&#8217;s hylomorphe) and effect (for a standard configuration of Peirce&#8217;s secondness).&nbsp;&nbsp;The SV<sub>s<\/sub>&nbsp;stands for a SO<sub>s<\/sub>&nbsp;in the same way that a form can stand for its matter.&nbsp;&nbsp;The SV<sub>s<\/sub>&nbsp;is like&nbsp;<em>a form that conjures the matter that substantiates it<\/em>.&nbsp;&nbsp;The SV<sub>s<\/sub>&nbsp;is like&nbsp;<em>an effect that prompts its cause<\/em>.&nbsp;&nbsp;So, the first difference is counter-intuitive, especially for the Aristotelian and the philosopher who imagines that&nbsp;<em>cause precedes effect<\/em>. Sign-relations do not easily break down into causes and effects.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>0064&nbsp;<em>The second difference<\/em>&nbsp;occurs within the SO<sub>s<\/sub>.&nbsp;&nbsp;Now, within the SO<sub>s<\/sub>, a sign-object [substantiates] a goal.&nbsp;&nbsp;This substance characterizes a second dyad, corresponding to&nbsp;<em>the sign-object serving as information<\/em>&nbsp;substantiating&nbsp;<em>a purpose<\/em>.&nbsp;&nbsp;So, the second difference is between two contiguous real elements:&nbsp;<em>information<\/em>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<em>intention<\/em>.&nbsp;&nbsp;The substance may now be labeled with the term, &#8220;salience&#8221;.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Bateson&#8217;s definition of sign is satisfied.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>0065&nbsp;<em>The second principle for integrating mechanism and semiosis<\/em>&nbsp;is that a sign-relation may be regarded mechanistically.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>Sharov and Tonnessen&#8217;s noumenal overlay<\/em>&nbsp;fits&nbsp;<em>the second principle<\/em>&nbsp;in so far as&nbsp;<em>the contiguities<\/em>&nbsp;are subject to&nbsp;<em>models<\/em>.&nbsp;&nbsp;<em>The biosemiotician<\/em>&nbsp;models [habits] and [salience].<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>0066&nbsp;<em>The third principle<\/em>&nbsp;is that&nbsp;<em>lower-level agencies<\/em>&nbsp;are relied upon by&nbsp;<em>higher-level agents<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>S&amp;T&#8217;s overlay<\/em>&nbsp;satisfies&nbsp;<em>this principle<\/em>&nbsp;in&nbsp;<em>the following manner<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/Slide022.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"600\" height=\"400\" src=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/Slide022.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-8625\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/Slide022.png 600w, https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/Slide022-300x200.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>0067&nbsp;<em>The fourth and final principle?<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>Mechanistic and semiotic analyses<\/em>&nbsp;complement&nbsp;<em>one another<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>The complementarity between dyadic mechanistic formulations and triadic semiotic structures<\/em>&nbsp;is obvious in&nbsp;<em>S&amp;T&#8217;s noumenal overlay<\/em>.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>0056 In the laboratory sciences,&nbsp;an experimental recipe&nbsp;allows the student to observe and measure&nbsp;phenomena&nbsp;that validate&nbsp;the model (overlaying the noumenon). 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