{"id":8504,"date":"2024-12-14T08:00:00","date_gmt":"2024-12-14T08:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/?p=8504"},"modified":"2024-06-30T16:05:13","modified_gmt":"2024-06-30T16:05:13","slug":"looking-at-tomasz-dumas-article-2023-the-specificity-of-secundum-dici-relations-part-11-of-14","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/?p=8504","title":{"rendered":"Looking at Tomasz Duma&#8217;s Article (2023) &#8220;The Specificity of Secundum Dici Relations&#8230;&#8221; (Part 11 of 14)"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>0101 Oh my, this examination is already as long as the article.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Oh, maybe I can use a different label for&nbsp;<em>what I am doing<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>May I call this examination &#8220;a reconfiguration&#8221;?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The reconfiguration starts with a distinction between&nbsp;<em>esse, dici<\/em>&nbsp;(hand talk) and&nbsp;<em>dici&nbsp;<\/em>(speech-alone talk), drawing human evolution into the discussion.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In the long run, I suspect that Aquinas&#8217;s philosophy may be (to a significant degree) &#8220;re-expressed&#8221; using Peirce&#8217;s diagrams, if only because diagrams allow one to visualize a relation, as well as content within the relation.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Okay, maybe I should call this examination, &#8220;a speculation&#8221;.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>0102 I conclude by offering a couple more blogs, with lots of pictures.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>One blog focuses on the difference between implicit and explicit abstraction in regards to&nbsp;<em>relationes secundum X<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The other blog concern the category-based nested form and how Peirce&#8217;s categories may be regarded in terms of explicit and implicit abstraction.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>0103 I start with&nbsp;<em>the counter-intuitive hand-talk statement<\/em>&nbsp;discussed earlier.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Here is&nbsp;<em>relationes secundum dici<\/em>&nbsp;for this implicit abstraction.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/Slide34-5.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"600\" height=\"400\" src=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/Slide34-5.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-8505\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/Slide34-5.png 600w, https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/Slide34-5-300x200.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>0104 In the statement, each gesture-word categorically pictures or points to its referent.&nbsp;&nbsp;In doing so,&nbsp;<em>each hand-talk word<\/em>associates to matter.&nbsp;&nbsp;The form, here provided in speech-alone talk, is&nbsp;<em>a relation that is counter-intuitive<\/em>&nbsp;because ravens do not swim.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>0105 But, maybe they do not have to.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/Slide35-5.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"600\" height=\"400\" src=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/Slide35-5.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-8506\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/Slide35-5.png 600w, https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/Slide35-5-300x200.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>0106 In speech-alone talk, the matter-slot is occupied by an interpretation (a&nbsp;<em>relationes<\/em>), corresponding to the form-slot for hand talk.&nbsp;&nbsp;The speech-alone word which solves&nbsp;<em>the riddle of the slogan<\/em>&nbsp;is &#8220;drought&#8221;.&nbsp;&nbsp;This word mimimizes contradictions to the extent that the interpretation only requires sensible construction.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>0107 At this moment, I pose a question in regards the way that my attention proceeds in the previous two figures.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>To me, it seems easy to proceed from (A) the matter-slot for implicit abstraction to (C) the form-slot for explicit abstraction.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<em>Dici<\/em>&nbsp;(hand talk) flows through&nbsp;<em>relationes<\/em>&nbsp;to&nbsp;<em>dici<\/em>&nbsp;(speech-alone talk).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/Slide36-5.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"600\" height=\"400\" src=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/Slide36-5.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-8507\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/Slide36-5.png 600w, https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/Slide36-5-300x200.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>The other direction seems 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