{"id":8500,"date":"2024-12-16T08:00:00","date_gmt":"2024-12-16T08:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/?p=8500"},"modified":"2024-06-30T16:02:54","modified_gmt":"2024-06-30T16:02:54","slug":"looking-at-tomasz-dumas-article-2023-the-specificity-of-secundum-dici-relations-part-10-of-14","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/?p=8500","title":{"rendered":"Looking at Tomasz Duma&#8217;s Article (2023) &#8220;The Specificity of Secundum Dici Relations&#8230;&#8221; (Part 10 of 14)"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>0092 Then, there is&nbsp;<em>the distincdtion between implicit and explicit abstraction<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/Slide32-5.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"600\" height=\"400\" src=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/Slide32-5.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-8501\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/Slide32-5.png 600w, https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/Slide32-5-300x200.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>0093 This figure intimates the difficulties faced by 20th century commentators, writing long after 13th century Aquinas.&nbsp;&nbsp;<em>The dyadicity of<\/em>&nbsp;<em>relationes secundum X<\/em>&nbsp;engages&nbsp;<em>Peirce&#8217;s category of secondness,<\/em>&nbsp;even though none of the commentators knows this.&nbsp;&nbsp;Plus, Aquinas&#8217;s discussion of relatives, along with similar terms, leads to the discovery of the nature of triadic relations, such as signs and mediations, in the 16th century.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>0094 Georg W. Volk captures one facet of the conundrum.&nbsp;&nbsp;<em>Relationes secundum dici<\/em>&nbsp;signify&nbsp;<em>the relation itself<\/em>&nbsp;as well as&nbsp;<em>what is related by the relation<\/em>.&nbsp;&nbsp;Does this apply to the distinction between categorical (the referent for each hand-talk word-gesture) and transcendental (the referent for an entire grammatically correct counter-intuitive hand-talk statement)?&nbsp;Or does this apply to two&nbsp;<em>ens reale,<\/em>&nbsp;the relation (which does not seem like&nbsp;<em>ens reale,<\/em>&nbsp;because it consists of empty slots in a purely relational structure) and its contents (which seem to be&nbsp;<em>mind-independent,<\/em>&nbsp;especially with technical terms like &#8220;cushion&#8221; and &#8220;job&#8221;).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>Relationes secundum dici (speech-alone talk)<\/em>&nbsp;may be particularly dicey, because of juxtapositions, such as &#8220;cushy job&#8221;, a term (going into the slot for form) that accords to certain relations (going into the slot for matter).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>And, that is no accident.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Or is it?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>0095 Krapiec starts with&nbsp;<em>relationes secundum dici<\/em>&nbsp;as an accidental being that is subordinate to substantial being, constructed as a relation or one of its components.&nbsp;&nbsp;Similarly, the missing fingertip is subordinate to my friend and &#8220;cushion&#8221; is subordinate to my boss&#8217;s job.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>This accidental being is &#8220;transendental&#8221;, because it is (or may be) characteristic of any being (depending on the normal context<sub>3<\/sub>&nbsp;and potential<sub>1<\/sub>).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Three problems arise when considering these transcendental accidental beings. (1) How do the elements enter into the relation?&nbsp;&nbsp;(2) Does the&nbsp;<em>absolute (mind-independent) characteristic of the relational being<\/em>&nbsp;violate&nbsp;<em>the (mind-dependent) character of elements entering into relation?<\/em>&nbsp;(3) How does a Creator God originate creation through speech acts that surely classify as&nbsp;<em>relationes secundum dici?<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Well, if&nbsp;<em>relationes secundum dici<\/em>&nbsp;is an accident, then can I say that this crashing success is worth raving about?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>0096 Section four conveys how&nbsp;<em>secundum dici relations<\/em>&nbsp;are to be understood, according to the author, Thomasz Duma.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>First, let go of&nbsp;<em>the distinction between categorical and transcendental<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Second, all these relations have two termini,&nbsp;<em>the relation<\/em>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<em>the elements that go into the relation<\/em>.&nbsp;&nbsp;Both are expessed in&nbsp;<em>the diagram of Peirce&#8217;s category of secondness,<\/em>&nbsp;using Aristotle&#8217;s hylomorphe as an standard.&nbsp;&nbsp;Both&nbsp;<em>dici<\/em>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<em>relationes<\/em>&nbsp;are real elements.&nbsp;&nbsp;The contiguity is [<em>secundum<\/em>], translated into English as [according to].&nbsp;&nbsp;The contiguity may be considered as &#8220;mental&#8221; or &#8220;logical&#8221;.&nbsp;&nbsp;The contiguity may be associated with implicit or explict abstraction.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Third, as soon as a&nbsp;<em>relationes secundum X<\/em>&nbsp;(<em>X<\/em>&nbsp;=&nbsp;<em>esse<\/em>&nbsp;or&nbsp;<em>dici<\/em>) is formulated as a dyad in Peirce&#8217;s realm of actuality<sub>2<\/sub>, it is subject to the laws of contradiction and noncontradiction.&nbsp;&nbsp;For Aristotle&#8217;s hylomorphe, matter and form are real elements associated to explicit abstraction.&nbsp;&nbsp;If the contiguity between them is labeled, [substance], then internal contradictions should be resolved.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>0097 In this examination, I swerve from&nbsp;<em>what Duma actually says.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Am I trying to avoid an accident?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Or, am I on my way to create one?&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>My course correction adds one more item to the list.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Fourth, because&nbsp;<em>relationes secundum X<\/em>&nbsp;cohere&nbsp;<em>to a dyadic expression consistent with Peirce&#8217;s secondness,<\/em>&nbsp;in order to be understood, this actuality<sub>2<\/sub>&nbsp;requires a normal context<sub>3<\/sub>&nbsp;and potential<sub>1<\/sub>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Here is an example.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/Slide33-5.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"600\" height=\"400\" src=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/Slide33-5.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-8502\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/Slide33-5.png 600w, https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/Slide33-5-300x200.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Ah, this sort of looks like Krapiec&#8217;s point about accidental being acting subordinate to substantial being.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>But, now the dyadic actuality<sub>2<\/sub>&nbsp;is ordinate and its normal context<sub>3<\/sub>&nbsp;and potential<sub>1<\/sub>&nbsp;are subordinate.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Which makes me wonder whether the ordinate (the actuality<sub>2<\/sub>) is really subordinate (to the entire nested form).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Or worse, if actuality<sub>2<\/sub>&nbsp;is missing, does the normal context<sub>3<\/sub>&nbsp;and potential<sub>1<\/sub>&nbsp;act like an accident waiting to happen?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>0098 No wonder the hominin brain increases in volume over evolutionary time.&nbsp;&nbsp;Imagine a hominin building an adaptive neural network<sub>2<\/sub>&nbsp;devoted to&nbsp;<em>the normal context<sub>3<\/sub>&nbsp;and the potential<sub>1<\/sub>&nbsp;of a subordinate being<\/em>&nbsp;adding value to&nbsp;<em>an ordinate being<sub>2<\/sub><\/em>&nbsp;for&nbsp;<em>a number of social circles<sub>3<\/sub>, including diverse teams<sub>3<\/sub><\/em>.&nbsp;&nbsp;Surely, natural selection can work on that.&nbsp;&nbsp;As each hominin grows up,&nbsp;<em>other members of the band<\/em>&nbsp;learn&nbsp;<em>the range of this hominin&#8217;s aptitudes<\/em>&nbsp;and respond accordingly, with either&nbsp;<em>invitations to join a team<\/em>&nbsp;or&nbsp;<em>neglect, due to perceived lack of &#8220;talent&#8221; or &#8220;interest&#8221;<\/em>.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In other words,&nbsp;<em>the normal context<sub>3<\/sub>&nbsp;of the team<\/em>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<em>the potential of the individual<sub>1<\/sub><\/em>&nbsp;are subordinate to the ordinate, the&nbsp;<em>individual joining a team<sub>2<\/sub><\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>Joining a team<\/em>&nbsp;correlates to&nbsp;<em>reproductive success<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The irony is that&nbsp;<em>no element<\/em>&nbsp;is fully subordinate or completely ordinate in a category-based nested form.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>The category-based nested<\/em>&nbsp;form is&nbsp;<em>triadic relation<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>0099 May I add one more item?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Five, what does the contiguity between&nbsp;<em>esse<\/em>&nbsp;or&nbsp;<em>dici<\/em>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<em>relation<\/em>&nbsp;imply for the&nbsp;<em>esse<\/em>&nbsp;bucket?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Surely, implicit abstraction consists of the operations of adaptive neural networks, honed by evolution in the service of some team or other social circle.&nbsp;&nbsp;Implicit abstraction comes &#8220;naturally&#8221;, so to speak.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Explicit abstraction is the outlier. It is not necessarily &#8220;naturally&#8221; easy unless it somehow coheres with the mental and logical processes of an innate implicit way of thinking.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>For example, why do humans learn to read so easily.&nbsp;&nbsp;Of course, some kids (and adults) have more difficulty than others, but once literate, the human mind effortlessly performs an implicit abstraction between&nbsp;<em>a set of written words<\/em>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<em>its corresponding meaning, presence and message?<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The answer is that so-called, &#8220;decoding&#8221;, of spoken and written words on the content-level consists of the same implicit abstractions involved in hand talk.&nbsp;&nbsp;<em>Dici<\/em>&nbsp;corresponds to&nbsp;<em>parole<\/em>.&nbsp;&nbsp;<em>Relationes<\/em>&nbsp;corresponds to&nbsp;<em>langue<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Thus, the definition of &#8220;language&#8221;, formulated by Ferdinand de Saussure early in the 20th century, looks very much like a style of&nbsp;<em>relationes secundum dici<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>0100 Implicit and explicit abstraction (as well as the terms &#8220;categorical&#8221; 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