{"id":7139,"date":"2024-01-13T08:00:00","date_gmt":"2024-01-13T08:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/?p=7139"},"modified":"2023-12-30T14:19:34","modified_gmt":"2023-12-30T14:19:34","slug":"looking-at-michael-tomasellos-book-2008-origins-of-human-communication-part-4-of-12","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/?p=7139","title":{"rendered":"Looking at Michael Tomasello&#8217;s Book (2008) &#8220;Origins of Human Communication&#8221; (Part 4 of 12)"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>0112 Chapter three of Tomasello&#8217;s book concerns&nbsp;<em>intentional communication among great apes<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>There are two broad types of significant gestures:&nbsp;<em>intentional movements<\/em>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<em>attention getters<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/Slide11.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"600\" height=\"400\" src=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/Slide11.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-7140\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/Slide11.png 600w, https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/Slide11-300x200.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>0113 A fun example consists of one young chimpanzee raising an arm while approaching another youngster.&nbsp;&nbsp;This is a specifying sign-vehicle (SV<sub>s<\/sub>).&nbsp;&nbsp;The sign-object (SO<sub>s<\/sub>) says, &#8220;Let&#8217;s play!&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>0114 Here is the specifying sign.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/Slide12.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"600\" height=\"400\" 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sign<\/em>&nbsp;is the raised arm.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In order to imagine this,&nbsp;<em>a perspective-level actuality<sub>2c<\/sub><\/em>&nbsp;is needed.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>0116 Here is a picture, using&nbsp;<em>the scholastic three-level interscope<\/em>&nbsp;for how humans think.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/Slide13.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"600\" height=\"400\" src=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/Slide13.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-7142\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/Slide13.png 600w, https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/Slide13-300x200.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>0117 I don&#8217;t know whether scholastics have a formal causality for this sign-relation.&nbsp;&nbsp;But, I call it &#8220;the interventional sign&#8221;.&nbsp;&nbsp;The interventional sign is odd in so far as&nbsp;<em>the actuality of the sign-vehicle<sub>2c<\/sub><\/em>&nbsp;is&nbsp;<em>mental<\/em>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<em>the actuality of the sign-object<sub>2a<\/sub><\/em>&nbsp;is&nbsp;<em>a gestural action<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>It makes me wonder, is&nbsp;<em>the raised arm of a young, playful, chimpanzee<\/em>&nbsp;the sign-vehicle of the specifying sign or the sign-object of the interventional sign?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Oh, the answer is obvious.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>It<sub>2a<\/sub>&nbsp;must be both.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>This is the conclusion found in&nbsp;<em>Looking at Daniel Dennett&#8217;s Book (2017) &#8220;From Bacteria, To Bach and Back&#8221;<\/em>&nbsp;in Razie Mah&#8217;s blog for December 2023.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>0118 Surely,&nbsp;<em>the intentionality<sub>2c<\/sub>&nbsp;of the arm raise<sub>2a<\/sub><\/em>&nbsp;is built into&nbsp;<em>the chimpanzee<\/em>&nbsp;as&nbsp;<em>a phenotypic 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