{"id":6726,"date":"2023-10-27T08:00:00","date_gmt":"2023-10-27T08:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/?p=6726"},"modified":"2023-05-27T12:12:07","modified_gmt":"2023-05-27T12:12:07","slug":"looking-at-john-deelys-book-2010-semiotic-animal-part-2-of-22","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/?p=6726","title":{"rendered":"Looking at John Deely&#8217;s Book (2010) &#8220;Semiotic Animal&#8221;\u00a0\u00a0(Part 2 of 22)"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>0011 Idealism looks for something<sub>2<\/sub>&nbsp;that it can turn into an object<sub>2<\/sub>&nbsp;or an empirio-schematic judgment<sub>2<\/sub>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>What about realism?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>0012 In Aristotle&#8217;s hylomorphe, matter and form are real elements and the contiguity is called &#8220;substance&#8221; (a technical use that may or may not cohere with traditional definitions of the word).&nbsp;&nbsp;Here is a picture.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/Slide04-3.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"600\" height=\"400\" src=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/Slide04-3.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-6727\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/Slide04-3.png 600w, https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/Slide04-3-300x200.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><\/a><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Figure 04<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>0013 I suppose Aristotle&#8217;s philosophy is realist.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>So, let me see what happens to the hylomorphe when it is tossed into an appropriate category-based nested form.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/Slide05-3.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"600\" height=\"400\" src=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/Slide05-3.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-6728\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/Slide05-3.png 600w, https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/Slide05-3-300x200.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><\/a><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Figure 05<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Okay.&nbsp;&nbsp;That is a little disappointing.&nbsp;&nbsp;I thought I would have arrows going in every direction, as in the first blog.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>0014 Let me try another.&nbsp;&nbsp;&#8220;Stipulation&#8221; is a spoken word.&nbsp;&nbsp;How does the spoken word, &#8220;stipulation&#8221; pan out as an actuality, according to Razie Mah in&nbsp;<em>How To Define The Word &#8220;Religion&#8221;<\/em>?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/Slide06-3.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"600\" height=\"400\" src=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/Slide06-3.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-6729\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/Slide06-3.png 600w, https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/Slide06-3-300x200.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><\/a><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Figure 06<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Another disappointment with realism.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>0015 Well, what if I go one step further and remind myself that, according the linguist, Ferdinand de Saussure (1857-1913 AD), spoken language consists of two arbitrarily related systems of differences,&nbsp;<em>parole<\/em>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<em>langue<\/em>.&nbsp;&nbsp;Parole is &#8220;talk&#8221;.&nbsp;&nbsp;Langue is &#8220;language&#8221; (or whatever is going on in one&#8217;s head during conversation).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>According to Saussure, for spoken words,&nbsp;<em>parole [stipulates] langue<sub>2<\/sub><\/em>.&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Now, I have another example of the idealist approach, with a parallel to modern epistemology.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/Slide07-3.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"600\" height=\"400\" src=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/Slide07-3.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-6730\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/Slide07-3.png 600w, https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/Slide07-3-300x200.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><\/a><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Figure 07<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>0011 Idealism looks for something2&nbsp;that it can turn into an object2&nbsp;or an empirio-schematic judgment2. 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