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0007 Diesen builds his theory on two key terms, gemeinschaft<\/em> and gesellschaft<\/em>.  These terms are distinct.  These terms are separate.  Both terms rely on the capacity of speech-alone talk to apply labels<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

These terms cannot exist in the world of hand-speech talk.  What is there to picture or point to in hand talk?  Oh, the most elder woman in the band<\/em> can carry the rod of tradition<\/em>.  The smartest young <\/em>man in the band can carry the rod of complexity<\/em>.  Okay, but how does hand talk image and indicate the qualifiers, “tradition” and “complexity”?  These terms cannot be articulated in hand talk, the semiotic foundation of hand-speech talk.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

0008 So, what am I asking?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Does the distinction between these two terms<\/em> precede the first singularity?<\/em>  Is the distinction present before our current Lebenswelt?<\/em>  How does the distinction express itself in the Lebenswelt that we evolved in?<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n

0009 May I suggest that the distinction is built into the unity of hand-speech talk?<\/em>  One language manifests in two modalities.  Here is way to appreciate hand-speech talk as it was most likely practiced by Homo sapiens<\/em> before the first singularity.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Figure 01<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

0010 Hand talk pictures and points to its referents.  In this way, the relation between parole<\/em> (gesture) and langue<\/em> (mental processing of signification) is motivated by the semiotic qualities of icons and indexes<\/em>.  Hand talk has been evolving since before the start of the Homo<\/em> genus.  Hand talk becomes linguistic when the semiotic qualities of symbols<\/em> start to operate beneath the surface of the iconicity and indexality of hand talk<\/em>.  Language involves automatic symbolic sign processing.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Speech, in hand-speech talk, relies on the innate semiotic properties of hand talk. When speech talk is added to hand talk, it pairs with manual-brachial gestures as an adornment.  A sing-along, so to speak, which Neanderthals and Denisovans can appreciate but not perform well.  Slowly, but surely, since the advent of our species, speech talk becomes more and more independent of its manual-brachial counterpart. Spoken words start to take on a lives of their own, while remaining grounded in hand talk.  Consider the paleolithic art of the Lascaux caves<\/em> and tell me that the artists were not singing as well as gesturing, as they spit paint upon the fat-lamp lit walls?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Speech does not replace hand talk.  Rather, the speech component of hand-speech talk expresses hand talk in a different register, conveying the situation in addition to word-content.  It adds a musical accompaniment.  It adds… how shall I say it?.. a variety of tones.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

0011 The hand-talk component of hand-speech talk<\/em> associates with content, tradition, and the physical presence of people in community. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

The speech-talk component of hand-speech talk<\/em> associates with situation, adornment, and the relational presence of people in community.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

0012 Consequently, certain ironies about our current Lebenswelt<\/em> become obvious when I draw the following associations.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Figure 02<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

0012 At present, gesellschaft is called, “rational” and gemeinschaft is called, “irrational”.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Yet, as Diesen points out over and over again, whenever the rational<\/em> orders the irrational<\/em> without appreciation of the irrational,<\/em> a civilization enters its autumn season.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

0007 Diesen builds his theory on two key terms, gemeinschaft and gesellschaft.  These terms are distinct.  These terms are separate.  Both terms rely on the capacity of speech-alone talk to apply labels. These terms cannot exist in the world of hand-speech talk.  What is there to picture or point to in hand talk?  Oh, the most elder woman in the band can carry the rod of tradition.  The […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-6548","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-unveiling-words"],"yoast_head":"\nLooking at Glenn Diesen's Book (2019) "The Decay ... 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