{"id":594,"date":"2013-09-06T01:13:21","date_gmt":"2013-09-06T01:13:21","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/75.103.96.165\/blog\/?p=594"},"modified":"2014-10-07T23:02:05","modified_gmt":"2014-10-07T23:02:05","slug":"thoughts-on-whatever-became-to-sin-by-karl-menninger-md-1973-7a","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/?p=594","title":{"rendered":"Thoughts on Whatever Became of Sin? By Karl Menninger MD (1973) 7A"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Instead of a Judeo-Christian nested form underlying Menninger\u2019s nested form of crime(sin(symptom)), \u201cfree-will\u201d probably belongs to a separate, intersecting nested form.<\/p>\n<p>In Chapter 7, titled \u201cSin as Collective Responsibility\u201d, Menninger dramatically shifted from the nested form of \u201ccrime(sin(symptom))\u201d to another form, something like \u201ccollective irresponsibility(sin(the seven deadly \u201cvices\u201d (Chapter 8))\u201d.<\/p>\n<p>For Menninger, individuals express themselves within the confines of the groups within which they have loose membership.\u00a0 Groups spontaneously organize.\u00a0 Why? Membership implies self-interest.<\/p>\n<p>Member\u2019s self-interest has all the qualities of the \u201csymptom\u201d, discussed in Chapter 6.\u00a0 However, with groups, something new enters the picture, especially when it comes to \u201cwhat groups do all the time\u201d: \u201cgroup-think\u201d.<\/p>\n<p>Group-think is a kind of self-deception, or maybe, a deception among selves. Just as \u201ccrime\u201d puts \u201csin\u201d into a normal context.\u00a0 \u201cGroup-think\u201d puts \u201csin\u201d into a normal context.\u00a0 But \u201cgroup-think\u201d and \u201ccrime\u201d cannot be exchanged for one another.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Instead of a Judeo-Christian nested form underlying Menninger\u2019s nested form of crime(sin(symptom)), \u201cfree-will\u201d probably belongs to a separate, intersecting nested form. 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