{"id":5235,"date":"2022-03-04T08:00:00","date_gmt":"2022-03-04T08:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/?p=5235"},"modified":"2022-04-28T19:41:18","modified_gmt":"2022-04-28T19:41:18","slug":"if-adam-and-eve-associate-to-the-ubaid-of-southern-mesopotamia-then-what-does-that-imply-16","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/?p=5235","title":{"rendered":"Looking at Roy Clouser&#8217;s Article (2021) &#8220;&#8230;Support of Carol Hill&#8217;s Reading&#8230;&#8221; (Part 3 of 6)"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>0011 The first point keys into the second point.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Adam and Eve are the first humans in&nbsp;<em>the history of redemption<\/em>.&nbsp;&nbsp;They are neither perfect nor immortal.&nbsp;&nbsp;So, they screwed up.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>0012 How did they do it?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>They thought that they understood the&nbsp;<em>meanings, presences and messages<\/em>&nbsp;latent in&nbsp;<em>their speech-alone words<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Ooops.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>0013 This slip up brings Clouser back to Saint Paul, in his letter to the Romans, where Adam&#8217;s covenantal failure is compared to Christ&#8217;s covenantal success.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>More or less, Paul says that sin enters the world through one man, Adam&#8230; but, wait a second&#8230; before Moses there is no law, so how can there be sin?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>0014 In other words,&nbsp;<em>the actuality of sin<sub>2<\/sub>&nbsp;potentiating death<sub>1<\/sub>&nbsp;in the normal context of the Mosaic law<sub>3<\/sub><\/em>&nbsp;must have been functioning after Adam and before Moses, even though Moses is yet to be formally present.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>0015 Clouser concludes that this imputation suggests that there are humans contemporary to Adam.&nbsp;&nbsp;Plus, their sins are not held against them, because God has not made Himself known.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>0016 However, there are other suggestions that come to mind with&nbsp;<em>the hypothesis of the first singularity<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Before Adam, do humans have access to a (metaphorical, or perhaps, literal)&nbsp;<em>tree of life,<\/em>&nbsp;which conveys&nbsp;<em>an immortality unfamiliar to what we civilized folk currently imagine?<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>After Adam and before Moses, are&nbsp;<em>folk, living within our current Lebenswelt,<\/em>&nbsp;trapped within&nbsp;<em>the imputation of Mosaic law,<\/em>&nbsp;precisely as Paul notes?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>0017 See the e-book&nbsp;<em>An Archaeology of the Fall<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Also, see\u00a0<em>Comments on Original Sin and Original Death: Romans 5:12-19<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>These are available at smashwords and other e-book venues.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>0011 The first point keys into the second point. 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