{"id":5233,"date":"2022-03-07T08:00:00","date_gmt":"2022-03-07T08:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/?p=5233"},"modified":"2022-04-28T19:40:07","modified_gmt":"2022-04-28T19:40:07","slug":"if-adam-and-eve-associate-to-the-ubaid-of-southern-mesopotamia-then-what-does-that-imply-15","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/?p=5233","title":{"rendered":"Looking at Roy Clouser&#8217;s Article (2021) &#8220;&#8230;Support of Carol Hill&#8217;s Reading&#8230;&#8221; (Part 2 of 6)"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>0004 I have a joke.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>A Christian theologian goes to the doctor and asks, &#8220;What is wrong with me?&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The doctor replies, &#8220;It might be original sin.&nbsp;&nbsp;The stories of Adam and Eve don&#8217;t need to be reconciled with science.&nbsp;&nbsp;But, Augustine and science, that is your problem.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>0005 Clouser relies on an interpretation of Genesis 1 and 2 appearing in Joseph Soloveitchik&#8217;s book,&nbsp;<em>The Lonely Man of Faith<\/em>.&nbsp;&nbsp;The title is ironic, since Soloveitchik is lonely in name only.&nbsp;&nbsp;He is one of the leading Orthodox Jewish theologians of the twentieth century.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The things that Soloveitchik writes.&nbsp;&nbsp;Some of them buttress Carol Hill&#8217;s argument.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>0006 Here is the first point.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The Old Testament does not support the claim that Adam and Eve are the first humans.&nbsp;&nbsp;After all, where does Cain get his wife?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>0007 Ah, that goes into&nbsp;<em>the problem of Saint Augustine<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Augustine misreads Paul&#8217;s letter to the Romans.&nbsp;&nbsp;Well, actually, his Latin translation of Roman 5:12 has a crucial infidelity to the Greek text.&nbsp;&nbsp;The Latin slippage implies that we are all guilty of Adam&#8217;s sin.&nbsp;&nbsp;The Greek original suggests that we are all doomed because of Adam&#8217;s error.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The result?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The McGuffey Reader poetically waxes, &#8220;In Adam&#8217;s Fall, we sinned all.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>0008 Should Augustine have known better?&nbsp;&nbsp;Should the translator be blamed?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>These questions step around an issue so tricky that everyone walks around it.&nbsp;&nbsp;Spoken words are slippery.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Augustine slips up.&nbsp;&nbsp;But,&nbsp;<em>the slip<\/em>&nbsp;serves as evidence for an important point.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>0009 Adam and Eve may not be the first humans on Earth.&nbsp;&nbsp;But, they may be the first to rely on&nbsp;<em>the slipperiness of spoken words<\/em>&nbsp;to come to&nbsp;<em>a conclusion that turns out to be highly problematic<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>0010 Is this a theological implication of the first singularity?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>0004 I have a joke. 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