{"id":4753,"date":"2020-10-09T07:48:00","date_gmt":"2020-10-09T07:48:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/?p=4753"},"modified":"2022-05-07T23:53:39","modified_gmt":"2022-05-07T23:53:39","slug":"comments-on-fr-dwight-longeneckers-podcast-2020-myths-monsters-and-mysteries-part-6","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/?p=4753","title":{"rendered":"Comments on Fr. Dwight Longenecker&#8217;s Podcast (2020) &#8220;Myths, Monsters and Mysteries&#8221; (Part 6)"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>0040&nbsp;<em>The esse_ce and essence of myth<\/em>&nbsp;coheres to&nbsp;<em>the dyadic structure of Peirce&#8217;s secondness<\/em>.&nbsp;&nbsp;It also expresses&nbsp;<em>Aristotle&#8217;s hylomorphism<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>The esse_ce of myth<\/em>&nbsp;is&nbsp;<em>an intimation of a real world event<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>The essence of myth<\/em>&nbsp;is explored with&nbsp;<em>Jungian psychology<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>These two approaches complement one another.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>0041 What does this have to do with monsters?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Monsters appear in myths.&nbsp;&nbsp;And, we perceive them as monsters.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>There are monsters in&nbsp;<em>the content of myth<\/em>.&nbsp;&nbsp;Then, our perception constructs&nbsp;<em>thier monstrosities<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>0042 On the content-level, the myth,&nbsp;<em>a story told by a story-teller<\/em>, is an actuality<sub>2<\/sub>, emerging from&nbsp;<em>the possibility of common attention<sub>1<\/sub><\/em>, in the normal context of&nbsp;<em>what is happening<sub>3<\/sub><\/em>.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The following formula is introduced in&nbsp;<em>A Primer on The Category Based Nested Form<\/em>.&nbsp;&nbsp;In a normal context<sub>3<\/sub>, an actuality<sub>2<\/sub>&nbsp;emerges from (and situates) the possibility of &#8216;something&#8217;<sub>1<\/sub>.&nbsp;&nbsp;The subscripts refer to Peirce&#8217;s categories.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>0043 Here is a picture.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"600\" height=\"400\" src=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/09\/longenecker-010.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-4754\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/09\/longenecker-010.png 600w, https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/09\/longenecker-010-300x200.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><figcaption>Figure 10<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>A situation level emerges from (and situates) a content level, according to&nbsp;<em>A Primer on Sensible and Social Construction<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Monsters appear as content in myths.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>This content is then situated by the human imagination.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>0044&nbsp;<em>A myth<sub>2a<\/sub><\/em>&nbsp;is situated by&nbsp;<em>possibilities inherent in the imagination<sub>1b<\/sub><\/em>, giving rise to&nbsp;<em>a phantasm<sub>2b<\/sub><\/em>, in the normal context of&nbsp;<em>what it means to me<sub>3b<\/sub><\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>The two-level interscope<\/em>&nbsp;is typical for&nbsp;<em>sensible construction<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"600\" height=\"400\" src=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/09\/longenecker-011.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-4755\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/09\/longenecker-011.png 600w, https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/09\/longenecker-011-300x200.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><figcaption>Figure 11<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>0045 Each column produces a virtual relation.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>The imagination<sub>1b<\/sub><\/em>&nbsp;virtually emerges from (and situates)&nbsp;<em>common attention<sub>1a<\/sub><\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>Phantasms<sub>2b<\/sub><\/em>&nbsp;virtually emerge from (and situate)&nbsp;<em>the telling of a myth<sub>2a<\/sub><\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>What does it mean to me<sub>3b<\/sub><\/em>&nbsp;virtually emerges from (and situates)&nbsp;<em>what is happening in the story<sub>3a<\/sub>.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>0046 Jungian psychology studies&nbsp;<em>the ways that imagination<sub>1b<\/sub>&nbsp;situates myth<sub>1a<\/sub><\/em>.&nbsp;&nbsp;Imagination picks up on essence.&nbsp;&nbsp;Essence associates to form.&nbsp;&nbsp;More than that, essence goes with&nbsp;<em>the filling in of a form<\/em>&nbsp;(that is,&nbsp;<em>[substance] form<\/em>).&nbsp;&nbsp;<em>The way that form is realized<\/em>&nbsp;addresses the question, &#8220;What do the various features of the story mean to me<sub>3b<\/sub>?&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>But, the phantasm<sub>2b<\/sub>&nbsp;is not pure fantasy.&nbsp;&nbsp;It is not solely essence.&nbsp;&nbsp;The imagination also brings experience into the picture.&nbsp;&nbsp;For this reason, the child perceives a myth as literally true and the adult senses that the myth is a mix of fact and fiction.&nbsp;&nbsp;The more experience one has, the more important<em>&nbsp;the matter that goes into the story<\/em>&nbsp;becomes.&nbsp;&nbsp;Or, should I say, &#8220;being&#8221;?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>0047 Experience includes one&#8217;s own personal accounts.&nbsp;&nbsp;Experience includes one&#8217;s traditions.&nbsp;&nbsp;Experience includes encounters described in myth.&nbsp;&nbsp;Experience is both practical and theoretical.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Experience tells us that&nbsp;<em>something real is going into the essence of the myth<\/em>.&nbsp;&nbsp;<em>The esse_ce<\/em>&nbsp;may be taken to be literal (making the story a historical documentation) or figurative (making the story a fantasy) or any mix of the two (bringing us back to the continuum in the first blog).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>There is a continuum between&nbsp;<em>matter<\/em>, which is material, and&nbsp;<em>being<\/em>, which is immaterial.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Both contribute to esse_ce.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>0048 So, what is going on in one&#8217;s head when one encounters a myth?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The mind<sub>3b<\/sub>&nbsp;constructs a phantasm<sub>2b<\/sub>&nbsp;that appropriates&nbsp;<em>the structure of Aristotle&#8217;s hylomorphism<\/em>.&nbsp;&nbsp;Actuality is dyadic.&nbsp;&nbsp;A myth<sub>2a<\/sub>&nbsp;is actual.&nbsp;&nbsp;So, the phantasm<sub>2b<\/sub>&nbsp;uses imagination<sub>1b<\/sub>&nbsp;to construct&nbsp;<em>the same dyadic structure<\/em>, but in&nbsp;<em>a way that reveals the monstrosity<sub>1b<\/sub>&nbsp;in monsters<sub>2a<\/sub><\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>0049 Here is a picture of what the phantasm constructs.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"600\" height=\"400\" src=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/09\/longenecker-012.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-4756\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/09\/longenecker-012.png 600w, https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/09\/longenecker-012-300x200.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><\/figure>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>0040&nbsp;The esse_ce and essence of myth&nbsp;coheres to&nbsp;the dyadic structure of Peirce&#8217;s secondness.&nbsp;&nbsp;It also expresses&nbsp;Aristotle&#8217;s hylomorphism. The esse_ce of myth&nbsp;is&nbsp;an intimation of a real world event. The essence of myth&nbsp;is explored with&nbsp;Jungian psychology. These two approaches complement one another. 0041 What does this have to do with monsters? 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