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0025 Hazony points to the obvious.  Humans evolve in social circles where there are many relationships between a more powerful individual and a less powerful one, starting with mom, dad and their children.  The organizational structure of this foundational institution is discussed in A Primer on the Family<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

0026 The family starts in the Lebenswelt that we evolved in<\/em>.  So, there is more.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

We must add the unconstrained social and labor specializations that characterize our current Lebenswelt<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Our current Lebenswelt<\/em> is not the Lebenswelt that we evolved in<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

0027 The organizational structures of civilizationB<\/sub><\/em> is a topic worthy of consideration<\/em>.  The institutionaC<\/sub> and sovereignbC<\/sub>levels of the society tierC<\/sub><\/em> contextualize the organization tierB<\/sub><\/em>.  The organization tierB<\/sub><\/em> encompasses productionaB<\/sub>, exchangebB<\/sub> and assessmentcB<\/sub>.  The organization tierB<\/sub><\/em> emerges from (and situates) the individual in communityA<\/sub><\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Too bad inquiry into the organization tierB<\/sub><\/em> is yet to be initiated.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Advancements are blocked by marxist theory, in its various guises.  Marxist theory offers a “scientific” model that forecloses intellectual exploration of the organizations tierB<\/sub><\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

0028 The model goes like this:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The diverse relations between more powerful and less powerful individuals in the organization tierB<\/sub><\/em> are equivalent to the relation between oppressors and oppressed<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The two are more than equivalent.  They are contiguous.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Figure 8<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

0029 What does contiguity imply?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Peirce’s category of secondness<\/em> consists of two contiguous real elements<\/em>.  The contiguity is not a real element, it is the substance that causally binds the two real elements<\/em>.  The marxist substance <\/em>carries the character of equivalence<\/em>, but that is not enough.  Ask any marxist.  The causality is systemic.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Anyone who disagrees<\/em> speaks with what Jacques Lacan calls<\/em>, the master’s discourse<\/em>.  Here is the oppressor.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Anyone who agrees<\/em> speaks, to me3b<\/sub>, in discourses that Lacan labels, hysteric<\/em> (for some) and scientific<\/em> (for others).  For the most part, I find it hard to tell the difference.  I suppose the label depends on the slogan2a<\/sub>.   Each slogan2a<\/sub> addresses the one who asks what does this mean to me3b<\/sub><\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

“Me3b<\/sub>” is a placeholder, virtually situating the person’s reflection3b<\/sub> in the marxist mirror of the world3a<\/sub><\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

0030 Oppressed? Or oppressor?  Find a location within the abundance of asymmetric relations contained within the organization tierB<\/sub>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Here is a diagram of the marxist interscope, as far as this discussion sees.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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