{"id":4663,"date":"2020-06-21T23:36:00","date_gmt":"2020-06-21T23:36:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/?p=4663"},"modified":"2022-05-08T00:05:26","modified_gmt":"2022-05-08T00:05:26","slug":"comments-on-robert-pennocks-essay-2009-the-difference-between-science-and-religion-epilogue-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/?p=4663","title":{"rendered":"Comments on Robert Pennock\u2019s Essay (2009) \u201c&#8230;the Difference between Science and Religion?\u201d (Epilogue 2)"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>0058 The other way to game the system comes from&nbsp;<em>the thousand points of light<\/em>, floating where the leviathan swims, in the heights of the celestial waters.&nbsp;&nbsp;On the surface, we humble folk see&nbsp;<em>these points of illumination<\/em>&nbsp;self-identify as \u201cnot religious\u201d.&nbsp;&nbsp;So, we think that they are not Christian, Jewish or Islamic factions.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Ah, but&nbsp;<em>the meaning of the word \u201creligion\u201d<\/em>&nbsp;changes.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Is the term still limited to the above-mentioned factions?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Must we continue the charade?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The same goes for the term, \u201cmetaphysics\u201d.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Does this term only apply to Christian, Jewish or Islamic theologies?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Or, does the term also apply to&nbsp;<em>the righteousness<sub>1aC<\/sub>&nbsp;underlying Big Government (il)Liberal agendas<sub>2aC<\/sub><\/em>?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>0059 If Big Government (il)Liberal institutions (BG(il)L) self-identify as \u201cnot religious\u201d, then they must be compatible with science.&nbsp;&nbsp;Their organizational objectives may be taught in public schools, especially when their methodology takes on&nbsp;<em>the style of the empirio-schematic judgment<\/em>&nbsp;and ends up establishing&nbsp;<em>a noumenon<\/em>, corresponding to&nbsp;<em>what the phenomena add up to<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Now, here comes a really big sentence.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>While ID<sub>3a<\/sub>&nbsp;observes and measures<sub>1a<\/sub>&nbsp;<em>phenomena<sub>1b<\/sub><\/em>&nbsp;and demonstrates that&nbsp;<em>the noumenon<sub>1b<\/sub><\/em>&nbsp;is greater than&nbsp;<em>what available mechanical and mathematical models<sub>2a<\/sub>&nbsp;predict<\/em>, BG(il)L institutions<sub>3a<\/sub>&nbsp;rely on&nbsp;<em>ideologically informed models<sub>2a<\/sub><\/em>&nbsp;applied to&nbsp;<em>selected observations and measurements<sub>1a<\/sub><\/em>&nbsp;in order to establish&nbsp;<em>phenomena<sub>1a<\/sub>&nbsp;<\/em>that guarantee<em>&nbsp;the relevance of their situation-level empirio-schematic judgment<sub>2b<\/sub><\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In effect,&nbsp;<em>certain phenomena<sub>1b<\/sub><\/em>&nbsp;may be deemed to be so salient that&nbsp;<em>a noumenon<sub>1b<\/sub><\/em>&nbsp;becomes manifest, thereby warranting&nbsp;<em>the attention of a naturalist intellect<sub>3b<\/sub><\/em>&nbsp;and establishing&nbsp;<em>the legitimacy of a discipline\u2019s language, models and observations<sub>2b<\/sub><\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>Phenomena<sub>1b<\/sub><\/em>&nbsp;may be manufactured in order to project<em>&nbsp;realness into the corresponding noumenon<sub>1b<\/sub><\/em>.&nbsp;&nbsp;This is the work of the experts in state education.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>0060 In order to fully appreciate what comes next, the reader may consider the masterwork,&nbsp;<em>How to Define the Word \u201cReligion\u201d<\/em>&nbsp;(available at smashwords), especially the chapter on presence.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>How do BG(il)L institutions, while self-identifying as \u201cnot religious\u201d, establish their doctrines in public schools?&nbsp;&nbsp;How do \u201cnot religious\u201d institutions establish a state religion?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Clearly, they game Michael Ruse\u2019s demarcation criteria.&nbsp;&nbsp;They pretend to be a science by mimicking the methodology (just like ID does).&nbsp;&nbsp;But, they do not get caught (like ID gets caught).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Then, they game Robert Pennock\u2019s demarcation criteria, by self-identifying as \u201cnot religious\u201d. Therefore, they not subject to scrutiny when they violate the first amendment of the U.S. Constitution.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>0061 So how are BG(il)L institutions religious?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>There are two types of religion, based on two distinctly different objects in the society tier<sub>C<\/sub>.&nbsp;&nbsp;One<sub>2cC<\/sub>&nbsp;is assumed<sub>3cC<\/sub>.&nbsp;&nbsp;This relational object<sub>2cC<\/sub>&nbsp;builds civilizations or destroys them.&nbsp;&nbsp;The other<sub>2aC<\/sub>&nbsp;belongs to institutions<sub>3aC<\/sub>.&nbsp;&nbsp;<em>Organizational objects<sub>2aC<\/sub><\/em>&nbsp;emerge from (and situate)&nbsp;<em>the potential of righteousness<sub>1aC<\/sub>.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>Organizational objects<sub>2aC<\/sub><\/em>&nbsp;are religious.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>0062 Only two associations are required (S and T).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>The organizational objective<sub>2aC<\/sub>&nbsp;of a \u201cnot religious\u201d BG(il)L institution<sub>3aC<\/sub><\/em>&nbsp;goes with&nbsp;<em>a noumenon<sub>1b&nbsp;<\/sub><\/em>(S), which is where metaphysics is quietly stuffed according to the dictates of the naturalist intellect<sub>3b<\/sub>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>By focusing on observations and measurements<sub>2a<\/sub>&nbsp;that contribute to the feeling that the corresponding phenomena<sub>1b<\/sub>&nbsp;are real, these institutions generate&nbsp;<em>the impression of a metaphysics-filled noumenon<sub>1b<\/sub>, the thing itself, which may take on a life of its own<\/em>.&nbsp;&nbsp;<em>Both apparent phenomena<sub>1b<\/sub>&nbsp;and their spectral noumenon<sub>1b<\/sub><\/em>&nbsp;support&nbsp;<em>a situation-level actuality<sub>2b<\/sub>&nbsp;that reifies the entire content level<sub>a<\/sub><\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>Righteousness<sub>1aC<\/sub><\/em>&nbsp;associates with&nbsp;<em>the entire content level of methodological<sub>a<\/sub>&nbsp;naturalism<sub>b&nbsp;<\/sub><\/em>(T).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>Scientific method<\/em>&nbsp;is&nbsp;<em>the foundation of BG(il)L belief<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Righteousness mimics the empirio-schematic judgment by promoting a disciplinary language<sub>3a<\/sub>, ideologically-informed mechanical models<sub>2a<\/sub>&nbsp;and selective observations and measurements<sub>1a<\/sub>.&nbsp;&nbsp;The content-level nested form<sub>a<\/sub>&nbsp;establishes the realness of the situation-level actuality<sub>2a<\/sub>, by establishing irrefutable phenomena<sub>1b<\/sub>.&nbsp;&nbsp;The realness of the situation-level actuality<sub>2a<\/sub>, plus the unassailable status of the phenomena<sub>1b<\/sub>, establish an undeniable noumenon<sub>1b<\/sub>, containing a metaphysically informed BG(il)L organizational objective<sub>2aC<\/sub>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In 1981,&nbsp;<em>The Creation Science<\/em>&nbsp;is attacked by the leviathan for a crude imitation of what BG(il)L institutions have been doing for over two decades.&nbsp;&nbsp;In 2005,&nbsp;<em>The Intelligent Design<\/em>&nbsp;is mauled for a more sophisiticated imitation.&nbsp;&nbsp;Our world is indeed upside down.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Say what?&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In each BG(il)L institution, observations and measurements<sub>1a<\/sub>&nbsp;are selected to support mechanistic and ideological models<sub>2a<\/sub>&nbsp;and guide the believer\u2019s definition of words<sub>3a<\/sub>.&nbsp;&nbsp;The \u201cnot religious\u201d believer then accepts&nbsp;<em>the realness of the corresponding phenomena<sub>1b<\/sub><\/em>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<em>the realness of the corresponding noumenon<sub>1b<\/sub><\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Remember, the&nbsp;<em>phenomena<sub>1b<\/sub><\/em>&nbsp;carry the imprint of selective observations<sub>1a<\/sub>, righteousness-inspired models<sub>2a<\/sub>&nbsp;and virtue-signaling disciplinary language<sub>3a<\/sub>.&nbsp;&nbsp;These elements<sub>a<\/sub>&nbsp;are inherently&nbsp;<em>meta-<\/em>&nbsp;(crossing out of)&nbsp;<em>-physical<\/em>&nbsp;(material and instrumental causality), even though couched in the methodology of science.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Remember, the&nbsp;<em>noumenon<sub>1b<\/sub><\/em>&nbsp;carries&nbsp;<em>a BG(il)L organizational objective<sub>2aC<\/sub><\/em>, which is inherently religious.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In sum,<em>&nbsp;the veracity of a BG(il)L institution\u2019s empirio-schematic judgment<sub>2b<\/sub><\/em>&nbsp;is supported by&nbsp;<em>the righteousness of the content-level\u2019s disciplinary language<sub>3a<\/sub>, models<sub>2a<\/sub>&nbsp;and observations<sub>1a<\/sub><\/em>.&nbsp;&nbsp;The BG(il)L\u2019s&nbsp;<em>phenomena<sub>1b<\/sub><\/em>&nbsp;cannot be refuted. The BG(il)L\u2019s&nbsp;<em>noumenon<sub>1b<\/sub><\/em>&nbsp;is undeniable.&nbsp;&nbsp;Those who question&nbsp;<em>the veracity of the institution\u2019s normal context<sub>3a<\/sub>, actualities<sub>2a<\/sub><\/em><em>and potentials<sub>1a<\/sub><\/em>&nbsp;must be regarded as not properly informed.&nbsp;&nbsp;They are not righteous<sub>1aC<\/sub>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>What are public schools supposed to do?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Properly inform students?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Or indoctrinate them with \u201cnot religious\u201d values?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>0063 Here is diagram of how BG(il)L institutions game the system.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"600\" height=\"400\" src=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/06\/200516-pennock-image-09.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-4664\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/06\/200516-pennock-image-09.png 600w, https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/06\/200516-pennock-image-09-300x200.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><figcaption>Figure 09<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>0064 Surely, the Christians have given the leviathan enough rope.&nbsp;&nbsp;Pull the creature in and let these heavenly waters descend.&nbsp;&nbsp;Perhaps,&nbsp;<em>the celestial ocean of BG(il)L<\/em>&nbsp;will fall on its own.&nbsp;&nbsp;Can&nbsp;<em>a sea of government liquidity<\/em>&nbsp;levitate on borrowed and printed money?&nbsp;&nbsp;How long can this inversion continue?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Can it reign for a thousand years?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Pennock\u2019s essay is intended to clarify the 2005 Kitzmiller case and to provide a rule of thumb to distinguish science and religion.&nbsp;&nbsp;These comments show how Pennock\u2019s rule can be gamed.&nbsp;&nbsp;It was gamed before his participation in the debate.&nbsp;&nbsp;It is being gamed after.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>0065 What is the problem?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Is methodical naturalism crowding Christianity from the public square?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Or, is methodological naturalism allowing \u201cnot religious\u201d BG(il)L doctrines into the public square?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Clearly, both dynamics are at play.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>0066 I thank Robert Pennock for his challenging article.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>0058 The other way to game the system comes from&nbsp;the thousand points of light, floating where the leviathan swims, in the heights of the celestial waters.&nbsp;&nbsp;On the surface, we humble folk see&nbsp;these points of illumination&nbsp;self-identify as \u201cnot religious\u201d.&nbsp;&nbsp;So, we think that they are not Christian, Jewish or Islamic factions. 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