{"id":4646,"date":"2020-06-26T23:24:00","date_gmt":"2020-06-26T23:24:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/?p=4646"},"modified":"2022-05-08T00:04:19","modified_gmt":"2022-05-08T00:04:19","slug":"comments-on-robert-pennocks-essay-2009-the-difference-between-science-and-religion-part-3","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/?p=4646","title":{"rendered":"Comments on Robert Pennock\u2019s Essay (2009) \u201c&#8230;the Difference between Science and Religion?\u201d (Part 3)"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>0013 Okay. I must hold, in my mind, the upside-down celestial waters.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Within these waters, a leviathan swims, asking the questions, \u201cCan Intelligent Design be taught as a science? How do we demark science and non-science (that is, religion)?\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>But, those on the surface, the sailors on the ship,&nbsp;<em>The Creation Science<\/em>, suspect that the leviathan is really asking, \u201cCan we teach science as a religion?\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Of course, it all depends on how one defines the word, \u201creligion\u201d.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>0014 In section 3, Pennock considers the philosophy behind the 2005&nbsp;<em>Kitzmiller vs Dover&nbsp;<\/em>decision and establishes five points (H-L).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>First (H), Kitzmiller does not follow the criteria used in the McLean case (points A-E).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Second (I), Kitzmiller relies on a ballpark demarcation (a ground rule, so to speak).&nbsp;&nbsp;Creationism violates this ground rule.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Third (J), the ground rule is methodological naturalism.&nbsp;&nbsp;This rule says, \u201cMetaphysics is not allowed.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The word, \u201cmetaphysics\u201d, is rooted in two terms,&nbsp;<em>meta-<\/em>&nbsp;(to cross over) and&nbsp;<em>-physics<\/em>&nbsp;(the physical).&nbsp;&nbsp;Naturalism does not allow its followers to pass out of the realm of&nbsp;<em>phenomena<\/em>.&nbsp;&nbsp;<em>Phenomena<\/em>&nbsp;consists in&nbsp;<em>that which is observable and measurable<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>0015 Pennock dwells on this point (J) at length.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>To me, he describes the Naturalist\u2019s judgment.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Allow me to elaborate.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>A judgment is a primal triadic relation, consisting in three elements:&nbsp;<em>relation<\/em>,&nbsp;<em>what is<\/em>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<em>what ought to be<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>0016 The&nbsp;<em>relation<\/em>&nbsp;is&nbsp;<em>the naturalist intellect<\/em>, which rules out metaphysics.&nbsp;&nbsp;This relation is imbued with Peirce\u2019s category of thirdness.&nbsp;&nbsp;Thirdness associates with a normal context<sub>3<\/sub>, as described in&nbsp;<em>A Primer on the Category-Based Nested Form<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>0017&nbsp;<em>What is<\/em>&nbsp;consists of&nbsp;<em>phenomena<\/em>.&nbsp;&nbsp;<em>Phenomena<\/em>&nbsp;are&nbsp;<em>observable and measurable features of a thing or event<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>There is a certain philosophical emptiness to&nbsp;<em>phenomena<\/em>.&nbsp;&nbsp;After all,&nbsp;<em>phenomena<\/em>&nbsp;do not constitute&nbsp;<em>the thing itself<\/em>, even though some may imagine that this is the case.&nbsp;&nbsp;<em>The thing itself<\/em>&nbsp;cannot be objectified as its&nbsp;<em>phenomena<\/em>.&nbsp;&nbsp;So, there is a word for the thing itself: \u201c<em>noumenon<\/em>\u201d.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>What does this imply?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>What is<\/em>&nbsp;may be expressed as&nbsp;<em>a continuity between two real elements, a noumenon and its phenomena<\/em>.&nbsp;&nbsp;That continuity is placed in brackets for notational clarity.&nbsp;&nbsp;<em>What is<\/em>&nbsp;consists of&nbsp;<em>a noumenon [cannot be objectified as] its phenomena<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>This dyad belongs to the category of firstness.&nbsp;&nbsp;Firstness is the monadic realm of possibility.&nbsp;&nbsp;<em>Phenomena<\/em>&nbsp;have&nbsp;<em>the potential to be observed and measured<\/em>.&nbsp;&nbsp;A&nbsp;<em>noumenon<\/em>&nbsp;has&nbsp;<em>the potential of capturing the attention of the naturalist intellect<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>0018&nbsp;<em>What ought to be<\/em>&nbsp;consists of another judgment, where disciplinary language (<em>relation<\/em>, thirdness) brings together mechanical and mathematical models (<em>what ought to be<\/em>, secondness) with observations and measurements (<em>what is<\/em>, firstness).&nbsp;&nbsp;This triadic relation is called \u201cthe empirio-schematic judgment\u201d and first appears in&nbsp;<em>Comments on Jacques Maritain\u2019s Book (1935) Natural Philosophy<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The empirio-schematic judgment,&nbsp;<em>what ought to be<\/em>, in the Naturalist\u2019s judgment, is imbued with secondness, the character of actuality.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Here is a diagram.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"600\" height=\"400\" src=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/06\/200516-pennock-image-02.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-4647\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/06\/200516-pennock-image-02.png 600w, https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/06\/200516-pennock-image-02-300x200.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><figcaption>Figure 02<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>0019 Fourth (K), the ground rule of \u201cno metaphysics\u201d does not appeal to the criterion of falsifiability (E).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>At this point, I can see that&nbsp;<em>the criteria espoused by Michael Ruse<\/em>&nbsp;applies to&nbsp;<em>portions of the Naturalist\u2019s judgment<\/em>.&nbsp;&nbsp;A and B cohere to&nbsp;<em>the naturalist intellect (relation) and the selection of noumena (what is)<\/em>.&nbsp;&nbsp;<em>Noumena<\/em>&nbsp;must be&nbsp;<em>things that have observable and measurable facets to their forms<\/em>.&nbsp;&nbsp;C, D and E pertain to&nbsp;<em>the connection between the empirio-schematic judgment (what ought to be) and phenomena (what is).<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In terms of the metaphor of inversion, Michael Ruse\u2019s criteria keep us firmly fixed in the celestial waters, where&nbsp;<em>the leviathan of the \u201cnot religious\u201d sciences<\/em>&nbsp;swims.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>0020 In order to appreciate&nbsp;<em>this whale of a topic,<\/em>&nbsp;swimming in the heights of state-funded liquidity, I unfold the Naturalist\u2019s and the empirio-schematic judgments into category-based nested forms, based on their assigned categories.&nbsp;The result is a two-level interscope<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The interscope is introduced in&nbsp;<em>A Primer on Sensible and Social Construction<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Here is the diagram.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"600\" height=\"400\" src=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/06\/200516-pennock-image-03.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-4648\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/06\/200516-pennock-image-03.png 600w, https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/06\/200516-pennock-image-03-300x200.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><figcaption>Figure 03<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>0021 Methodological<sub>a<\/sub>&nbsp;naturalism<sub>b<\/sub>&nbsp;may be depicted as a two-level interscope.&nbsp;&nbsp;Method goes with the empirio-schematic judgment.&nbsp;&nbsp;Naturalism goes with the Naturalist\u2019s judgment.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The naturalist intellect<sub>3b<\/sub>&nbsp;rules out metaphysics.&nbsp;&nbsp;This rule is Pennock\u2019s last point (L).&nbsp;&nbsp;The rule, \u201cno metaphysics\u201d, comes from an occluded perspective level.&nbsp;&nbsp;<em>The rule<\/em>&nbsp;does not reveal&nbsp;<em>what is in the perspective level<\/em>.&nbsp;&nbsp;Indeed, the naturalist views the rule as coming from the content level.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>Disciplinary language for each science<sub>3a<\/sub><\/em>&nbsp;follows&nbsp;<em>the rule of the naturalist\u2019s intellect<sub>3b<\/sub><\/em>.&nbsp;&nbsp;<em>Any disciplinary language<sub>3a<\/sub>&nbsp;that discusses metaphysics<\/em>&nbsp;cannot be labeled as&nbsp;<em>a \u201cscience\u201d.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Of course, in this situation, the word, \u201cmetaphysics\u201d, is code for Christian theology.&nbsp;&nbsp;But, that is not what \u201cmetaphysics\u201d really means, as previously noted.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>This exclusion follows the logic of normal contexts.&nbsp;&nbsp;Normal contexts exclude, align or complement.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>0022 Creation science talks about metaphysics, while pretending not to.So, in the 1981&nbsp;<em>McLean vs Arkansas<\/em>&nbsp;trial,&nbsp;<em>the leviathan in the celestial waters of BG(il)L<\/em>&nbsp;descends to upset the boat,&nbsp;<em>The Creation Science<\/em>, and bites off the leg of its captain.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>0013 Okay. I must hold, in my mind, the upside-down celestial waters. Within these waters, a leviathan swims, asking the questions, \u201cCan Intelligent Design be taught as a science? How do we demark science and non-science (that is, religion)?\u201d But, those on the surface, the sailors on the ship,&nbsp;The Creation Science, suspect that the leviathan [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[10],"tags":[39,53,52,54,55,56,57,34,50,44],"class_list":["post-4646","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-defining-religion","tag-category-based-nested-form","tag-creation-science","tag-demarcation","tag-intelligent-design","tag-interscope","tag-kitzmiller","tag-mclean","tag-peirce","tag-religion","tag-science"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.5 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Comments on Robert Pennock\u2019s Essay (2009) \u201c...the Difference between Science and Religion?\u201d (Part 3) - An Archaeology of the Fall<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/?p=4646\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Comments on Robert Pennock\u2019s Essay (2009) \u201c...the Difference between Science and Religion?\u201d (Part 3) - An Archaeology of the Fall\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"0013 Okay. 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