{"id":4643,"date":"2020-06-27T23:21:00","date_gmt":"2020-06-27T23:21:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/?p=4643"},"modified":"2022-05-08T00:04:11","modified_gmt":"2022-05-08T00:04:11","slug":"comments-on-robert-pennocks-essay-2009-the-difference-between-science-and-religion-part-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/?p=4643","title":{"rendered":"Comments on Robert Pennock\u2019s Essay (2009) \u201c&#8230;the Difference between Science and Religion?\u201d (Part 2)"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>0008 Can one differentiate science from non-science?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Why is this question relevant?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The first amendment of the U.S. Constitution states that the federal government shall not establish a religion.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Is that the same as establishing a non-science?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>So, the first question twists.&nbsp;&nbsp;Is religion a non-science?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>It turns away from an old relevance, where the word \u201creligion\u201d means \u201ca Christian faction\u201d.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>It twists towards a new relevance, where \u201creligion\u201d is defined by an underlying meaning, presence and message.&nbsp;&nbsp;This is the topic of the masterwork,&nbsp;<em>How To Define the Word, Religion<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>0009 Why is this twist relevant?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>What if the U.S. federal government establishes a religion?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>What would be the nature of this religion?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Clearly, this religion is not a Christian faction.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Rather, it consists of diverse movements,&nbsp;<em>a thousand points of light<\/em>, that (F) claim to be \u201cnot religious\u201d and (G) demand sovereign power in order to implement their organizational objectives.&nbsp;&nbsp;Since each objective arises from the potential of righteousness, these diverse religions constantly signal their virtues.&nbsp;&nbsp;They are keen on making sure that their organizational objectives get the government funds that they deserve.&nbsp;&nbsp;Righteousness wins power and money.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Does&nbsp;<em>the legal debate that Pennock addresses<\/em>&nbsp;concern a single point of light, among thousands?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>No.&nbsp;&nbsp;Public education is&#8230; um&#8230; a big fish.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Yes, it\u2019s a gigantic fish with sharp teeth.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>0010 So, the question turns full circle.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Can science be taught as a religion?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The world is upside down.&nbsp;&nbsp;The ocean is where the sky should be.&nbsp;&nbsp;The sky is where the sea should be.&nbsp;&nbsp;The demarcation problem rests on the surface of this upside-down ocean.&nbsp;&nbsp;In this world, whales fly in the waters above.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The Story of Creation floats as a little boat that draws&nbsp;<em>the leviathan of public education<\/em>&nbsp;down from the heights, in a re-enactment of an orientation-challenged Moby Dick.&nbsp;&nbsp;The Captain Ahab of Creation Science wants to kill the leviathan, directly.&nbsp;&nbsp;In doing so, he would bring&nbsp;<em>the celestial waters of the deep state<\/em>&nbsp;into consciousness.&nbsp;&nbsp;<em>The highly elevated deep state<\/em>&nbsp;contains&nbsp;<em>a thousand institutions, whose points of light orient Big Government (il)Liberals<\/em>.&nbsp;&nbsp;Plus, this heavenly sea holds some really big fish.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Because these institutions<sub>3aC<\/sub>, both lights and fish, have&nbsp;<em>organizational objectives<sub>2aC<\/sub>&nbsp;that emerge from (and situate) the potential of righteousness<sub>1aC<\/sub><\/em>, they are religions.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>They appear to be<em>&nbsp;stars dwelling high in a fish-filled celestial ocean of righteousness<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Ah, the relevant question becomes, \u201cHow does one distinguish religion from non-religion?\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>0011 Here is how&nbsp;<em>this fully twisted vision<\/em>&nbsp;appears.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"600\" height=\"400\" src=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/06\/200516-pennock-Image-01.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-4644\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/06\/200516-pennock-Image-01.png 600w, https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/06\/200516-pennock-Image-01-300x200.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><figcaption>Figure 01<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>0012 Does this explain why the dismissal of the demarcation problem is premature?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>If the world is upside down, then&nbsp;<em>The Creation Science<\/em>&nbsp;aims to lance a leviathan that dwells deep in&nbsp;<em>the narratives of the heavenly waters of Big Government (il)Liberalism<\/em>.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>0008 Can one differentiate science from non-science? 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