{"id":1195,"date":"2014-06-06T01:51:53","date_gmt":"2014-06-06T01:51:53","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/raziemah.com\/blog\/?p=1195"},"modified":"2014-10-07T23:01:00","modified_gmt":"2014-10-07T23:01:00","slug":"man-and-sin-by-piet-schoonenberg-1964-1-5h2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/?p=1195","title":{"rendered":"Man and Sin by Piet Schoonenberg (1964) 1.5H2"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>[We might imagine that the word &#8220;property&#8221; taps into the archaic attribute of &#8220;holding onto some things and letting others go&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>However, the word only belongs to a system of differences.\u00a0 Rousseau depicted the difference this way:<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Private property&#8221; is the same as &#8220;civilization&#8221; and different than &#8230; &#8220;what?&#8221; &#8230; &#8220;collective ownership and utopia (a stand in for &#8216;the Lebenswelt that we evolved in&#8217;)&#8221;?<\/p>\n<p>Rousseau&#8217;s difference is precisely the opposite of how &#8220;private property&#8221; should be differentiated.\u00a0 &#8220;Private property&#8221; is the same as &#8220;freedom&#8221; and different than &#8220;ownership by elites of the think<sup>group<\/sup>&#8221; and &#8220;slavery&#8221;.\u00a0 There is no &#8220;utopia&#8221; where a person is &#8220;free&#8221; and &#8220;ownership is collective&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>But there is &#8220;the Lebenswelt that we evolved in&#8221;, where &#8220;belonging to the group was more important than any thing that you could hold onto&#8221;.\u00a0 Is that the same as &#8220;collective ownership&#8221;? \u00a0Is that the same as, &#8220;The collective is more important than anything that we can hold onto and call our own.&#8221;?<\/p>\n<p>All forms of collectivism appeal for a return to \u201cthe Lebenswelt before speech-alone talk\u201d because that is precisely the world that we evolved in.\u00a0 We innately anticipate this Lebenswelt.\u00a0 We feel its presence in our bones. 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