{"id":1191,"date":"2014-06-04T01:50:18","date_gmt":"2014-06-04T01:50:18","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/raziemah.com\/blog\/?p=1191"},"modified":"2014-10-07T23:01:01","modified_gmt":"2014-10-07T23:01:01","slug":"man-and-sin-by-piet-schoonenberg-1964-1-5g3","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/?p=1191","title":{"rendered":"Man and Sin by Piet Schoonenberg (1964) 1.5G3"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>[What does fact that, in the Lebenswelt that we evolved in, words could not lie for me, imply?<\/p>\n<p>It implies that the \u201cimmunity from concupiscence\u201d attributed to Adam and Eve simply reflects God\u2019s gift of bringing them into \u201cthe Lebenswelt that we evolved in\u201d.<\/p>\n<p>While this does not seem as fabulous as what Augustine imagined (that their sexual impulses were under the control of reason), this is certainly fabulous enough for Utopians of every stripe.<\/p>\n<p>How so?\u00a0 Utopians want to destroy unconstrained complexity. They imagine that this act of destruction will bring us literally \u201cno where\u201d.<\/p>\n<p>Where is Utopia?<\/p>\n<p>By default, it must be the Lebenswelt that we evolved in, where \u201ceveryone belonged, no one knew any better, and words meant exactly what they were supposed to mean\u201d.<\/p>\n<p>This is a world without concupiscence because think<sup>divine<\/sup> and think<sup>group<\/sup> were not differentiated.<\/p>\n<p>How fabulous is that?<\/p>\n<p>This explains why, despite immunity, the mythic Adam and Eve were so easily duped by the serpent.\u00a0 The serpent started the first think<sup>group<\/sup>.\u00a0 Of course, it was utopian because it treated, as actuality, the potential in the forbidden fruit.\u00a0 The serpent knew that eating the forbidden fruit would destroy the world.\u00a0 The real promise of the fruit was this:<\/p>\n<p>I will return you to the Lebenswelt that you evolved in &#8230;<\/p>\n<p>&#8230; a world without sin.]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>[What does fact that, in the Lebenswelt that we evolved in, words could not lie for me, imply? 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