{"id":10221,"date":"2026-03-27T08:00:00","date_gmt":"2026-03-27T08:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/?p=10221"},"modified":"2025-10-12T20:32:43","modified_gmt":"2025-10-12T20:32:43","slug":"looking-at-mikhail-trunins-article-2017-semiosphere-and-history-part-4-of-8","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/?p=10221","title":{"rendered":"Looking at Mikhail Trunin&#8217;s Article (2017) &#8220;Semiosphere and history&#8221;\u00a0\u00a0(Part 4 of 8)"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>0882 The author raises&nbsp;<em>an impressive option<\/em>&nbsp;in&nbsp;<em>the section of semiotics as a meta-discipline<\/em>.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Should&nbsp;<em>academic research in the humanities<\/em>&nbsp;require&nbsp;<em>conceptual frameworks<\/em>&nbsp;or&nbsp;<em>hermeneutical subtlety?<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The answer becomes obvious once the author concedes that&nbsp;<em>most contemporary researchers working with Uspenskij&#8217;s paradigms<\/em>&nbsp;concentrate on applications.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>0883 The author suggests that&nbsp;<em>the determination of a semiological<sub>3a<\/sub>&nbsp;structural<sub>3b<\/sub>&nbsp;model<sub>2c<\/sub><\/em>&nbsp;of&nbsp;<em>a clearly demarked historical moment&nbsp;<\/em>(such as Peter the Great attempting to move the mountain of Slavic indolence)&nbsp;<em>or movement<\/em>&nbsp;(such as indolent Slavs convincing themselves that, if the Czar Peter the Great acts like he is divine, then he must be the Antichrist) freezes&nbsp;<em>the dynamics of history<\/em>.&nbsp;&nbsp;This is correct&#8230;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&#8230;until&nbsp;<em>the historian&#8217;s Zeitgeist<\/em>&nbsp;melts.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>0884 Perhaps,&nbsp;<em>a fixation about the difference between synchrony and diachrony<\/em>&nbsp;distracts attention from&nbsp;<em>a more foundational point<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>0885 What value does&nbsp;<em>the fundament interscope<\/em>&nbsp;offer over and above&nbsp;<em>what a historian is already doing?<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The historian already constructs history as a literary text<sub>2bf<\/sub>, using spoken words<sub>2af<\/sub>, based on observations of historical phenomena<sub>1c<\/sub>&nbsp;as if these are the observable and measurable facets of a historical noumenon, a thing itself.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In doing so,&nbsp;<em>the historian<\/em>&nbsp;intellectually freezes&nbsp;<em>the dynamics of history<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>0886 Does the historian generate&nbsp;<em>the equivalent of a semiological<sub>3a<\/sub>&nbsp;structural<sub>3b<\/sub>&nbsp;historical<sub>2af<\/sub>&nbsp;model<sub>2c<\/sub>?<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Here is a picture of&nbsp;<em>the fundament interscope<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Slide06-6.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"600\" height=\"400\" src=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Slide06-6.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-10222\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Slide06-6.png 600w, https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Slide06-6-300x200.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>0887 Yes and no.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Yes, the historian treats history as a literary form<sub>2bf<\/sub>&nbsp;because the historian writes a text, a literary form about a historical moment or movement.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>No, the historian does not treat history as a literary form<sub>2bf<\/sub>&nbsp;because the historian does not construct&nbsp;<em>a semiological<sub>3a<\/sub>structural<sub>3b<\/sub>&nbsp;model<sub>2c<\/sub><\/em>&nbsp;that serves as&nbsp;<em>an interventional sign-vehicle<\/em>&nbsp;(SV<sub>i<\/sub>) that stands for&nbsp;<em>an interventional sign-object<\/em>(SO<sub>i<\/sub>), constituting&nbsp;<em>a content-level actuality<sub>2a<\/sub>&nbsp;in a derivative<\/em>&nbsp;(and open to the future)&nbsp;<em>interscope<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Rather, the historian imposes present-day divisions of time and place onto the past, using labels such as &#8220;era&#8221;, &#8220;movement&#8221;, &#8220;dynasty&#8221; and so forth.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>0888 Say what?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>An interventional sign-relation<\/em>&nbsp;bridges from&nbsp;<em>the perspective-level actuality<sub>2c<\/sub>&nbsp;of the fundament<\/em>&nbsp;(or &#8220;loquens&#8221;)&nbsp;<em>interscope<\/em>&nbsp;to&nbsp;<em>the content-level actuality<sub>2a<\/sub>&nbsp;of the derivative<\/em>&nbsp;(or &#8220;ego&#8221;)&nbsp;<em>interscope<\/em>&nbsp;in the same way that&nbsp;<em>a sign-vehicle<\/em>(SV) stands for&nbsp;<em>a sign-object<\/em>&nbsp;(SO) in regards to&nbsp;<em>a sign-interpretant<\/em>&nbsp;(SI).&nbsp;&nbsp;In this instance,&nbsp;<em>the SI<\/em>&nbsp;is&nbsp;<em>the content-level normal context<sub>3a<\/sub>&nbsp;and potential<sub>1a<\/sub><\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>08891 Here is a picture of the interventional sign-relation relevant to this article.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Slide07-8.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"600\" height=\"400\" src=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Slide07-8.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-10223\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Slide07-8.png 600w, https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Slide07-8-300x200.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>0890&nbsp;<em>A semiological structuralist model<sub>2c<\/sub><\/em>&nbsp;(SV<sub>i<\/sub>, virtually contextualizing the situation-level dyad of {written words<sub>2bm<\/sub>[substantiate] history as a literary form<sub>2bf<\/sub>}) stands for&nbsp;<em>the entanglement<\/em>, {history as form<sub>2af<\/sub>&nbsp;[entangles] language as matter<sub>2am<\/sub>} (SO<sub>i<\/sub>), in regards to&nbsp;<em>the normal context of the Tartu-Moscow School of Semiotics<sub>3a<\/sub>&nbsp;operating on the potential of &#8216;meaning&#8217;<sub>1a<\/sub><\/em>&nbsp;(SI<sub>i<\/sub>).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>0891 At this point,&nbsp;<em>a discussion about the difference between synchrony and diachrony<\/em>&nbsp;draws attention to a crucial point.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>0892 Necessarily, history must be segmented into moments and movements (whatever way a scholar wants to slice it) in order to arrive at a model<sub>2c<\/sub>&nbsp;that allows the scholar to draw contemporary meaning<sub>1a<\/sub>, presence<sub>1b<\/sub>&nbsp;and message<sub>1c<\/sub>, (depending on how far the intellect wants to go into the derivative interscope).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>0893 According to the author, Juri Lotman argues that the diachronic aspect of history may be captured by stringing synchronic models<sub>1c<\/sub>&nbsp;in sequence, like pearls on a necklace.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The key point is that each pearl involves the past coming into the present through the interventional sign-relation.&nbsp;&nbsp;The historian-semiotician uses the positivist intellect of the Tartu-Moscow School<sub>3a<\/sub>&nbsp;to manifest contemporary meaning<sub>1a<\/sub>(SI<sub>i<\/sub>), whereby a model<sub>2c<\/sub>&nbsp;of a past moment or movement (SV<sub>i<\/sub>) stands for {history as a form<sub>2af<\/sub>&nbsp;[entangling] present-day language as matter<sub>2am<\/sub>}(SO<sub>i<\/sub>).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>0894 This brings me back to the question, &#8220;Does the historian generate&nbsp;<em>the equivalent of a semiological<sub>3a<\/sub>&nbsp;structural<sub>3b<\/sub>historical<sub>2af&nbsp;<\/sub>&nbsp;model<sub>2c<\/sub>?&#8221;<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>0895 While some historians claim authenticity by writing out historical events as they sequentially and perhaps, instrumentally, occur, the reader of these highly dense volumes often gets lost in the details.&nbsp;&nbsp;In short,&nbsp;<em>the lack of a semiological<sub>3a<\/sub>&nbsp;structuralist<sub>3b<\/sub>&nbsp;model<sub>2c<\/sub><\/em>&nbsp;results in the reader wondering, &#8220;What does&nbsp;<em>this intricate detailing of events<\/em>stand for?&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>0896 Is it necessary that the&nbsp;<em>loquens<\/em>&nbsp;(&#8220;speaking&#8221;) interscope entangles the&nbsp;<em>ego<\/em>&nbsp;(&#8220;me&#8221;) interscope?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>0897 Here is a difficulty.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Slide08-6.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"600\" height=\"400\" src=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Slide08-6.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-10224\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Slide08-6.png 600w, https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Slide08-6-300x200.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>0898 On one hand,&nbsp;<em>the perspective-level of<\/em>&nbsp;<em>the fundament<\/em>&nbsp;(or&nbsp;<em>loquens<\/em>)&nbsp;<em>interscope<\/em>&nbsp;mimics&nbsp;<em>the unfolded empirio-schematic judgment<\/em>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<em>the content-level of the derivative<\/em>&nbsp;(or&nbsp;<em>ego<\/em>)&nbsp;<em>interscope<\/em>&nbsp;recapitulates the&nbsp;<em>unfolded Positivist&#8217;s judgment<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>On the other hand,&nbsp;<em>the content-level of the derivative<\/em>&nbsp;(or ego)&nbsp;<em>interscope<\/em>&nbsp;coincides with&nbsp;<em>something that looks like the normal context of definition<sub>3<\/sub>&nbsp;<\/em>(such as the TMS school<sub>3a<\/sub>)&nbsp;<em>bringing the actuality of a spoken word<sub>2<\/sub><\/em>&nbsp;(the dyad where {history as form<sub>2af<\/sub>&nbsp;[entangles] language as matter<sub>2am<\/sub>}&nbsp;<em>into relation with the potential of meaning<sub>1a<\/sub>, presence<sub>1b<\/sub>&nbsp;and message<sub>1c<\/sub>.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>0899 In other words, the pearls on a string, and even the pearl-alone approach, touches base with&nbsp;<em>scientific detachment<\/em>(<em>ego,<\/em>&nbsp;in Descartes&#8217; use of the term) and connects with&nbsp;<em>me&nbsp;<\/em>(<em>ego<\/em>, in the classic Latin use of the term), in a way that&nbsp;<em>a tabulation of happenstance and intrigues<\/em>&nbsp;does not.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>0882 The author raises&nbsp;an impressive option&nbsp;in&nbsp;the section of semiotics as a meta-discipline.&nbsp; Should&nbsp;academic research in the humanities&nbsp;require&nbsp;conceptual frameworks&nbsp;or&nbsp;hermeneutical subtlety? 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