{"id":10167,"date":"2026-02-16T08:00:00","date_gmt":"2026-02-16T08:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/?p=10167"},"modified":"2025-10-12T13:57:43","modified_gmt":"2025-10-12T13:57:43","slug":"looking-at-peeter-torops-article-2017-semiotics-of-cultural-history-part-4-of-11","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/?p=10167","title":{"rendered":"Looking at Peeter Torop&#8217;s Article (2017) &#8220;Semiotics of Cultural History&#8221;\u00a0\u00a0(Part 4 of 11)"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>0996 Let me offer a simplification.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Here is a picture of&nbsp;<em>the resolution of history substantiating culture<\/em>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<em>culture entangling semiotics<\/em>&nbsp;as a century-long chronotope.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Slide11-4.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"600\" height=\"400\" src=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Slide11-4.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-10168\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Slide11-4.png 600w, https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Slide11-4-300x200.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>0997 The story starts with&nbsp;<em>the Russian Revolution<\/em>&nbsp;at&nbsp;<em>the end of the first World War<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>Saussure&#8217;s thing<\/em>&nbsp;is a viable alternate to&nbsp;<em>Marx&#8217;s thing<\/em>&nbsp;soon after&nbsp;<em>the end of the second World War<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>The first manifestation of the Tartu-Moscow School<\/em>&nbsp;becomes&nbsp;<em>a star in the constellation of Russian Theory<\/em>&nbsp;during&nbsp;<em>the third World War<\/em>.&nbsp;&nbsp;The fundament interscope is constructed.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The production of the derivative interscope and the formulation of Lotman&#8217;s thing occurs in the waning years of&nbsp;<em>the third<\/em>&nbsp;and the early years of&nbsp;<em>the fourth Battle Among The Enlightenment Gods<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>0998 Here is a date for orientation.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In 1973, Juri Lotman and others publish&nbsp;<em>Theses on the Semiotic Study of Culture (as Applied to Slavic Texts)<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>The literary text<\/em>&nbsp;is incorporated into&nbsp;<em>a science-oriented model<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>0999 To start, Saussure&#8217;s dyadic actuality<sub>2a<\/sub>&nbsp;is placed in the proper normal context<sub>3a<\/sub>&nbsp;and potential<sub>1a<\/sub>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Here is a picture.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Slide12-4.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"600\" height=\"400\" src=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Slide12-4.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-10169\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Slide12-4.png 600w, https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Slide12-4-300x200.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>1000 Many features of Formalism may be repurposed to explain how&nbsp;<em>spoken words as things<sub>2a<\/sub><\/em>&nbsp;emerge from (and situate)&nbsp;<em>the potential of<\/em>&nbsp;<em>&#8216;signified [and] signifier&#8217;<\/em><sub>1a<\/sub>&nbsp;within the normal context&nbsp;<em>of Saussure&#8217;s semiology<sub>3a<\/sub><\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>1001 In short,&nbsp;<em>the content-level<\/em>&nbsp;encompasses&nbsp;<em>topics familiar to linguists and scholars in rhetoric<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>1002 Next,&nbsp;<em>Saussure&#8217;s thing on the content level<\/em>&nbsp;is situated by&nbsp;<em>a literature-loving thing on the situation level<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Slide13-4.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"600\" height=\"400\" src=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Slide13-4.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-10170\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Slide13-4.png 600w, https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Slide13-4-300x200.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>1003 Culture enters the picture here as&nbsp;<em>the milieu in which language<sub>2bm<\/sub>&nbsp;substantiates a work of art<sub>2bf<\/sub><\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Culture also enters the picture in&nbsp;<em>the guise of influence<sub>3b(1b))<\/sub>,<\/em>&nbsp;corresponding to&nbsp;<em>the normal contexts<sub>3<\/sub>&nbsp;and potentials<sub>1<\/sub>&nbsp;of both the content<sub>a<\/sub>&nbsp;and situation<sub>b<\/sub>&nbsp;levels<\/em>.&nbsp;&nbsp;Here,&nbsp;<em>artistic expressions<\/em>&nbsp;are situated by genre, style and so forth.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>1004 For example, from the situation-level point of view, the parole<sub>2af<\/sub>&nbsp;of dance consists of movements that constitute artistic expression<sub>2af<\/sub>.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;A dancer trips over something on the floor.&nbsp;&nbsp;That is not part of the parole<sub>2af<\/sub>&nbsp;of the dance<sub>3a<\/sub>, because it<sub>2am<\/sub>&nbsp;has no corresponding langue<sub>2am<\/sub>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>During a performance<sub>2bf<\/sub>, dancers adhere to certain laws of choreography<sub>1b<\/sub>&nbsp;that vary according to the dance genre<sub>3b<\/sub>.&nbsp;&nbsp;Tap dancers make lots of noise.&nbsp;&nbsp;Ballet dancers do not.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>1005 Each language<sub>2a<\/sub>&nbsp;must be performed<sub>2bm<\/sub>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>1006 The language<sub>2a<\/sub>&nbsp;supporting the performance<sub>2bm<\/sub>&nbsp;is universal.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>For example, a dance where&nbsp;<em>the dancers merely wriggle in place<\/em>&nbsp;looks like&nbsp;<em>the visual equivalent of babbling<\/em>.&nbsp;&nbsp;Similarly, a dance where the dancers merely perform&nbsp;<em>acrobatic feats<\/em>&nbsp;does not demonstrate&#8230; well&#8230;&nbsp;<em>artistic effort<\/em>.&nbsp;&nbsp;Also,&nbsp;<em>a dancer wrapped up in linen as to appear as a round ball<\/em>&nbsp;can only be said to be on&nbsp;<em>a roll<\/em>.&nbsp;&nbsp;So, there must be something&nbsp;<em>universal to the language<sub>2a<\/sub><\/em>&nbsp;that corresponds to&nbsp;<em>what the author calls<\/em>&nbsp;&#8220;subtextual meaning&#8221;.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>1007 The performance<sub>2bm<\/sub>&nbsp;should be intelligible.&nbsp;&nbsp;For dance,&nbsp;<em>the coordination of bodies moving in unison<\/em>&nbsp;offers&nbsp;<em>a feeling of intelligibility<\/em>.&nbsp;&nbsp;Often,&nbsp;<em>cinematic approaches to dance<\/em>&nbsp;cut away before movements are complete, often in&nbsp;<em>unintelligible manners<\/em>.&nbsp;&nbsp;Also,&nbsp;<em>dance<\/em>&nbsp;is rarely composed for&nbsp;<em>cinema,<\/em>&nbsp;even though cinema offers unique points of view, unavailable to stage.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>1008 So, what am I saying?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>What am I asking?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Will a model<sub>2c<\/sub>&nbsp;put all this into perspective?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Does&nbsp;<em>a model<sub>2c<\/sub><\/em>&nbsp;bring&nbsp;<em>the intelligibility of the performance of a particular work<sub>2b<\/sub><\/em>&nbsp;into relation with&nbsp;<em>the universality of the &#8220;words&#8221; of its language<sub>2a<\/sub>?<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Well,&nbsp;<em>a model<sub>2c<\/sub><\/em>&nbsp;can do this, only when the model<sub>2c<\/sub>&nbsp;is not mathematical or mechanical.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>1009 What if the perspective-level follows&nbsp;<em>the appearance of the empirio-schematic judgment,&nbsp;<\/em>where&nbsp;<em>the normal context of a disciplinary language<sub>3c<\/sub><\/em>&nbsp;brings&nbsp;<em>the actuality of a mathematical and mechanical model<sub>2c<\/sub><\/em>&nbsp;into relation with&nbsp;<em>the potential of &#8216;observations and measurements of phenomena&#8217;<sub>1c<\/sub>?<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>1010 Here is a picture for how&nbsp;<em>that perspective-level category-based nested form<\/em>&nbsp;may appear.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Slide14-4.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"600\" height=\"400\" src=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Slide14-4.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-10171\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Slide14-4.png 600w, https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Slide14-4-300x200.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>1012&nbsp;<em>The 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