{"id":10148,"date":"2026-02-18T08:00:00","date_gmt":"2026-02-18T08:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/?p=10148"},"modified":"2025-10-12T13:49:13","modified_gmt":"2025-10-12T13:49:13","slug":"looking-at-peeter-torops-article-2017-semiotics-of-cultural-history-part-2-of-11","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/?p=10148","title":{"rendered":"Looking at Peeter Torop&#8217;s Article (2017) &#8220;Semiotics of Cultural History&#8221;\u00a0\u00a0(Part 2 of 11)"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>0967 Since the word, &#8220;chronotope&#8221; and &#8220;isotope&#8221; both contain &#8220;tope&#8221;, I use the latter as an analogy for the former.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The analogy is admittedly, odd.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>0968 Here is a comparison of the two entangled things.&nbsp;&nbsp;For chemistry,&nbsp;<em>an isotopic thing<\/em>&nbsp;(the nucleus, at least) gets entangled in&nbsp;<em>the matter of radioactive instability<\/em>.&nbsp;&nbsp;For the medieval scholastics,&nbsp;<em>a mind-independent being<\/em>&nbsp;ends up entangled with&nbsp;<em>mind-dependent matter<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Slide04-5.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"600\" height=\"400\" src=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Slide04-5.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-10157\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Slide04-5.png 600w, https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Slide04-5-300x200.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>0969 Now, how do these two confoundings resolve?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>They can resolve in favor of the originating matter, resulting in&nbsp;<em>a stable isotope<\/em>&nbsp;for c<em>hemistry<\/em>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<em>an objective mind-independent being<\/em>&nbsp;for&nbsp;<em>scholastic discourse<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>They can resolve in favor of the entangled matter, resulting in a&nbsp;<em>new element produced by radioactive decay<\/em>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<em>a subjective mind-dependent being,<\/em>&nbsp;apparently useless for scholastic discourse.&nbsp;&nbsp;Radioactivity and opinion?&nbsp;&nbsp;Yeah, both may be damaging.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>0970 Here is a picture of the example.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Slide05-6.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"600\" height=\"400\" src=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Slide05-6.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-10158\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Slide05-6.png 600w, https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Slide05-6-300x200.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>0971 Confoundings are dangerous.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Whenever I see one, I say, &#8220;Watch out!&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>0972 The adjusted title of the article under examination is &#8220;Semiotics of Cultural History: An Inquiry into the Chronotope&#8221;.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>So, I step onto&nbsp;<em>a path of analogy and example,<\/em>&nbsp;by offering&nbsp;<em>my first comparison<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Slide06-5.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"600\" height=\"400\" src=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Slide06-5.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-10159\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Slide06-5.png 600w, https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Slide06-5-300x200.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>0973 What is &#8220;cultural history&#8221;?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>It is&nbsp;<em>a historical thing<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>While&nbsp;<em>the literary construction of the thing<\/em>&nbsp;suggests that history may be the form and culture may serve as matter, the realness of&nbsp;<em>the historical thing<\/em>&nbsp;runs in the opposite direction.&nbsp;&nbsp;History pours into culture, like bronze pours into an empty plaster shell in the lost wax technique.&nbsp;&nbsp;Culture, as form, recalls history, as matter.&nbsp;&nbsp;So, &#8220;history&#8221; should serve as the matter and &#8220;culture&#8221; should label the form of &#8220;the historical thing&#8221;.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>0974 At this point,&nbsp;<em>the historical thing<\/em>&nbsp;might be regarded by a scientist as&nbsp;<em>a noumenon<\/em>&nbsp;that exhibits a variety of&nbsp;<em>phenomena<\/em>&nbsp;that can be observed and measured.&nbsp;&nbsp;Then,&nbsp;<em>the observations and measurements<\/em>&nbsp;may be modeled according to&nbsp;<em>ways that material arrangements substantiate human conditions,<\/em>&nbsp;using&nbsp;<em>the disciplinary languages of Keynesianism or Marxism or whatever<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>0975&nbsp;<em>The next step<\/em>&nbsp;on the path of analogy and example, introduces&nbsp;<em>semiotics<\/em>&nbsp;as&nbsp;<em>entangled matter<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Then, the confounding resolves in favor of the entangled matter.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Slide07-7.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"600\" height=\"400\" src=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Slide07-7.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-10160\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Slide07-7.png 600w, https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Slide07-7-300x200.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>0976 So, let me walk through&nbsp;<em>this figure<\/em>&nbsp;using the example.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>History<\/em>&nbsp;corresponds to&nbsp;<em>mind-independence as matter<\/em>.&nbsp;&nbsp;I suppose this implies that history may be regarded as&nbsp;<em>a sequence of real events<\/em>.&nbsp;&nbsp;So, these events substantiate&nbsp;<em>a real form<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>Culture<\/em>&nbsp;corresponds to &#8220;<em>ens reale<\/em>&#8221; as form.&nbsp;&nbsp;<em>Ens reale<\/em>&nbsp;transliterates into&nbsp;<em>real being<\/em>.&nbsp;&nbsp;Doesn&#8217;t everyone regard culture as&nbsp;<em>a real being?<\/em>&nbsp;&nbsp;Well, I suppose that&nbsp;<em>those who don&#8217;t<\/em>&nbsp;are either sociopaths or insane or both.&nbsp;&nbsp;If culture is not&nbsp;<em>a real being,<\/em>then what is?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>Semiotics,<\/em>&nbsp;or&nbsp;<em>sign-systems studies,<\/em>&nbsp;is analogous to&nbsp;<em>mind-dependent matter<\/em>&nbsp;that gets entangled with&nbsp;<em>the form of the historical thing<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>0977&nbsp;<em>The resolution in favor of the entanglement acts<\/em>&nbsp;like&nbsp;<em>radioactive decay that changes the elemental thing<\/em>&nbsp;and like&nbsp;<em>{mind-dependent matter [substantiating] ens rationis}<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>0978 In other words, as soon as&nbsp;<em>semiotics<\/em>&nbsp;gets entangled with&nbsp;<em>the historical thing,<\/em>&nbsp;<em>the historical thing<\/em>&nbsp;is no longer&nbsp;<em>the same<\/em>.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Slide08-5.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"600\" height=\"400\" src=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Slide08-5.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-10161\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Slide08-5.png 600w, https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Slide08-5-300x200.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>0979 Ah, I may now cross out&nbsp;<em>the historical thing<\/em>&nbsp;and insert Torop&#8217;s term, &#8220;cultural history&#8221;.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>0967 Since the word, &#8220;chronotope&#8221; 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