{"id":10051,"date":"2026-01-10T08:00:00","date_gmt":"2026-01-10T08:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/?p=10051"},"modified":"2025-10-10T18:13:38","modified_gmt":"2025-10-10T18:13:38","slug":"category-based-diagrams-assist-in-studying-historical-developments-3","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/?p=10051","title":{"rendered":"Looking at Ekaterina Velmezova and Kalevi Kull&#8217;s Article (2017) &#8220;Boris Uspenskij&#8230;&#8221; (Part 19 of 19)"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>0627 Today, we no longer are&nbsp;<em>who we evolved to be<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>What does this imply?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>We can no longer be&nbsp;<em>who we evolved to be<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>Our current Lebenswelt<\/em>&nbsp;is not&nbsp;<em>the Lebenswelt that we evolved in<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>0628 Today,<em>&nbsp;the general ego interscope<\/em>&nbsp;presents&nbsp;<em>a purely relational structure<\/em>&nbsp;(a suite of triadic relations) that may be processed implicitly.&nbsp;&nbsp;This is the configuration of&nbsp;<em>langue<\/em>, as opposed to&nbsp;<em>parole<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Here is a picture.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Slide50-1.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"600\" height=\"400\" src=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Slide50-1.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-10052\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Slide50-1.png 600w, https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Slide50-1-300x200.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>0629&nbsp;<em>Almost all of the elements of the interscope<\/em>&nbsp;are filled with&nbsp;<em>explicit abstractions<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>A trace of Aristotle&#8217;s philosophy<\/em>&nbsp;resides in&nbsp;<em>the Tartu-Moscow School of Semiotics.<\/em>&nbsp;<em>Upwellings from deep within Slavic civilization<\/em>&nbsp;breathe into&nbsp;<em>explicit abstractions<\/em>.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>An archaeology<\/em>&nbsp;can be seen in&nbsp;<em>the structure of the content- and situation-level actualities<\/em>.&nbsp;&nbsp;According to&nbsp;<em>Aristotle&#8217;s hylomorphe,<\/em>&nbsp;matter [substantiates] form.&nbsp;&nbsp;But,&nbsp;<em>this Christianized pagan civilization<\/em>&nbsp;realizes&nbsp;<em>the inverse<\/em>&nbsp;is also a thing.&nbsp;&nbsp;Form [entangles] matter.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>0630 In the example,&nbsp;<em>the form of a small bird<\/em>&nbsp;entangles&nbsp;<em>the matter of a young initiate<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The claim coheres with the crucial claim of Razie Mah&#8217;s book on hominin evolution,&nbsp;<em>The Human Niche<\/em>.&nbsp;&nbsp;<em>Our niche<\/em>&nbsp;is&nbsp;<em>the potential of triadic relations<\/em>.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The lesson appears like a banner on the perspective level.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Slide51-1.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"600\" height=\"400\" src=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Slide51-1.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-10053\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Slide51-1.png 600w, https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Slide51-1-300x200.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>0631 This brings me to&nbsp;<em>the joke about Juri Lotman&#8217;s soulful encounter with St. Methodius<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>During&nbsp;<em>the first ascent of the Tartu-Moscow School<\/em>&nbsp;in the USSR, structural<sub>3b<\/sub>&nbsp;semiological<sub>3a<\/sub>&nbsp;models<sub>2c<\/sub>&nbsp;are on the scientific side of the fence.&nbsp;&nbsp;The fence demarks the academic turfs of science (Marxist theory) and superstition (Christian faith, in all its diversity).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Now,&nbsp;<em>the second ascent of the Tartu-Moscow School<\/em>&nbsp;occurs as&nbsp;<em>the USSA, the maven of technology without meaning,<\/em>claims&nbsp;<em>the mantle of science<\/em>&nbsp;(psychometric theory) as opposed to&nbsp;<em>superstition<\/em>&nbsp;(still Christian faith, in all its diversity).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>0632 Does&nbsp;<em>the second ascent of TMS<\/em>&nbsp;forgo occupation of&nbsp;<em>the science side of the fence?<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Or does it straddle&nbsp;<em>the fence?<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>0633 It may sound uncomfortable, but take a look at&nbsp;<em>the following sequence of perspective level nested forms<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Slide52-1.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"600\" height=\"400\" 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a semiotic animal, one must not forget that both exemplar and interventional signs intercalate in the perspective level of an interscope.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The specifying, exemplar and interventional signs appear in&nbsp;<em>Looking at John Deely&#8217;s Book (2010) &#8220;Semiotic Animal&#8221;<\/em>.&nbsp;&nbsp;This sequence of blogs appears in Razie Mah&#8217;s website in October 2023.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>0637 What wonderful opportunities for the second ascendance of the TMS!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>0638 But, that is not the only challenge that comes from this examination of&nbsp;<em>the interview with Boris Uspenskij&nbsp;<\/em>in the early 2010s and published in&nbsp;<em>Sign Systems Studies<\/em>&nbsp;in 2017.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I suppose that there is more than one way to denote primary, secondary and tertiary modeling systems, so why not advance one more?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>0639 Here is another proposal.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Consider three tiers of interscopes, with&nbsp;<em>the perspective-level of each tier<\/em>&nbsp;displaying the following nested forms.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Slide53-1.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"600\" height=\"400\" src=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Slide53-1.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-10055\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Slide53-1.png 600w, https:\/\/www.raziemah.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/Slide53-1-300x200.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>0640 To me, this sequence of primary, secondary and tertiary modeling systems suggest that Peirce&#8217;s diagrams may assist in knitting biosemiotics and TMS together into one overarching theoretical framework.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>Three tiers of interscopes<\/em>\u00a0works well in the chapter on presence in Razie Mah&#8217;s\u00a0<em>How To 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